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06-23-2006, 07:19 PM
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Read the entire thread. O was just saying that a trainer that has three horses in a race has his mind on other things than arrogant rent-a-cops. 
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06-23-2006, 07:34 PM
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Some people are getting this confused with their distaste for law enforcement. Its about the way you treat people that are doing their job. The automatic picture appears to be some guy with an authority complex that wants to tell people what to do gets in Bafferts way. A wannabe cop... That is not necessarily an accurate picture.
DTS. When you are teaching and you get a code word to close the door to your room, you close the door to your room. You have been told that it might be an emergency, could be some idiot with a gun walking around, and your priority is the kids. So the fact that you follow this very sound simple rule does not make you an, "I just did what I was told Nazi". Thats silly. So it is possible some guy is told Do Not let people in without the proper credentials. He does not know who they are, and he knows his job is to let only certain people in to avoid who knows what. People are making this into an out of control security guard thing... and it does not read that way. Hell, my wife could make my house off limit to strangers by hiring a security guard and forget to give me "credentials" and I could be told do not enter. If I knew the guy was payed by my wife, and did not know me from Adam, I would not automatically accost him. Blame the track or whoever else responsible for organizing credentials. Why blame the guy doing his job? I do not get the reasoning. My take: Baffert did not show grace under pressure and he understands this. Maybe I should stop now and follow Jonathan Swift's very accurate words: Do not attempt to reason a man out of something he did not reason himself into.
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06-23-2006, 07:36 PM
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and i read the entire thread after my initial post.
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#104
06-23-2006, 07:50 PM
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Pgardn and Danzig,
I'm letting this go. No need for me to put any more gasoline on the fire. It's taken a whole lot of pages, some insightful, some not views. To each his own. No need to beat a dead horse. Believe whatever you want. DTS
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06-23-2006, 09:51 PM
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I have been to Saratoga and failed to bring a jacket. They have them there for loan. I was there as a guest of a well known trainer. They did not give me any trouble. they just said wear this jacket to your seat and then feel free to leave it on your chair. Might not be the same reception everyone gets, but as soon as they knew who I was with they handled it witht he best customer service ever. The trainer wasn't even there. Just by name they knew how to handle it.
Also, fun story first time I ever had brunch on the porch at Saratoga we had to pay off the maitre'd. Even though we were with a name trainer. We were like what the heck? And so we watched, he would say there was no seats until someone discreetly slip him some cash. We watched his pocket bulge. Fun enough, if you were too open about it he would refuse it like you offered him crack. He got busted last summer or the summer before. I bet he was pulling 5k per day on the porch.
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#106
06-23-2006, 09:54 PM
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The way Bodi Miller skied in the olympics I wouldn't let him in even if he had a pass. Baffert knew he didn't have a snowball's chance in hell in the race and was just playing the roll. The guard should of pulled that white haired bitch to the ground and put a Rodney King whoppin on he butt. JUST KIDDING.
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06-24-2006, 08:56 AM
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What the hell does Bode Miller need to be in the paddock for anyhow??? Some of you evidently don't realize how crowded that paddock gets at CD during Derby. CD trys to keep people out of it if that don't have horses in the Derby just to keep any potential accidents from happening. OWNERS, TRAINERS, JOCKEYS and THE HELP should be the only ones allowed in the paddock during Derby. CD is being nice for allowing owners friends in. If they would allow every trainer to do what Baffert wanted to do, there would be no room to saddle the horses. Ever see a horse take out of crowd of people, because they were too busy flapping their gums, not paying attention to where the horses are? It's an ugly sight. Ever handle a horse in a crowded paddock, having to holler at "owners friends" to please get out of the way so you won't run them over because they are too stupid and have no horse sense? It's not fun. Most of these people that don't belong in the paddock have no horse sense and are potential accidents waiting to happen. CD has every right to apply "crowd control" in the paddock. BTW, Belmonts paddock can handle 3 times the amount of people that the CD paddock can, maybe that's why they are so lieniant. CD has every right to try to keep Derby day ridng smooth without any accidents due to dumb ass people who want to be the paddock just so they can say "I was in the paddock during the Derby". Security was doing their job, Baffert WAS embarrassed, which is why he turned into a jackass.
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#108
06-24-2006, 06:06 PM
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baffert
If I Have To See One More Video And Bob Baffert And His Precious Bodie..i Will Puke! He Parades Around Like A Guy With A Danny O Day Puppet. Nobody Cares About Your Precious Bodie, Just Your Horses Bob.
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06-24-2006, 06:13 PM
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You must be drinking. If you take sides against a trainer that is concerned about three horses that are about to run...well, you missed your brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Put a bright shiney badge on a rent-a-cop... POOOF! All of a sudden...he's the one that's important...after all, he's running the show! FEEL THE POWER!!!!!!
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06-24-2006, 08:17 PM
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06-25-2006, 03:55 PM
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You all obviously ignored my post on how some law enforcement officers can be. I am right. If anything, I can say that I know what I am talking about in this department. I am not saying that this is what happened in this particular situation, but it could of been. Of course the media ONLY made Baffert look bad because heaven forbid, they should make ex-cops look bad. You can't trust the media. There is a lot more to this story than the media released.
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#112
06-25-2006, 04:07 PM
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Baffert is loved by Louisville Police. Ever since Pegram named Captain Steve after the policeman that saved him at the airport for carrying a gun, the Louisville police and Baffert have been tight. Sounds like the entire thing was blown out of proportion.
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#113
06-25-2006, 04:22 PM
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there's bad in every line of work, ky. and of course you wouldn't be the least biased on this particular subject, right? because you had a bad experience, i suppose everyone has or will.... prisons are filled with the innocent, just go ask them. all of them.
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06-25-2006, 04:59 PM
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Are you the same girl who had a boyfriend or fiance' that rammed a police car or something?
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06-25-2006, 05:15 PM
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06-25-2006, 05:16 PM
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I also would appreciate it if no one brought this up again. I never should have posted it on the internet. It was my mistake, and was way too personal. Besides, I have put it behind me. It is over and done with and the only thing left for me to do is to learn from it. If anything else, it was a good lesson to learn at such a young age because it opened my eyes. I now know that not everything is as it seems. I wouldn't take what happened to us back for anything because it made me a hell of a lot stronger person. However, I have revealed a lot about your character in that you have to attack me in order to make it seem as if your arguement is valid when, in reality, none of us will ever know what actually really happened in Baffert's situation. Believe what you want to believe. Also, this is exactly how I would know how the "REAL" world of law enforcement works. I don't dislike most police officers at all. They definitely have their place in society, and I thank them for their work. We must have them. My father used to be one. However, just like in any profession, their are some bad apples. And the media always covers up what the officers did wrong mainly because the officers are the ones that are always telling the story to the media. Like I said, this may or may not be the case with Baffert. We will never know what really happened, or if what the media says is the whole truth. I have gotten to where I don't believe anything the media says now in dealing with things like this. Last edited by kentuckyrosesinmay : 06-25-2006 at 06:24 PM.
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06-25-2006, 05:26 PM
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Just because you feel that you are so "in the know" about the world of law-enforcement, doesn't mean that you know any more about this particular situation than was included in the media releases. You made this statement. "There is a lot more to this story than the media released." My question was, "How in the hell do you know that there is more to this story? Were you there?" Your response is that I am ignorant? You obviously weren't there, and your assumption that the security was obviously in the wrong is due to your biased view and not to the facts of what happened on that day. If it comes out that the security guards were totally in the wrong, etc... Then so be it. But you can't make a blanket statement that you are "sure" of something just because you had some bad experience with law-enforcement. If you are the same person that made all of the posts about the car-ramming incident at the other board, then it all makes sense now. Those posts about the car-ramming were whining in its highest form.
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