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Gander · #81 01-04-2007, 12:46 PM

How many, pray tell, did this running machine make last year?

Without his PP's, probably made more starts than Ghostzapper but not as many as Dilligent Gambler or Sir Tyler T.

blackthroatedwind · #82 01-04-2007, 12:46 PM

Here's the field.....Chatain is in ( for whatever it's worth )

9th (5:10)
Hal's Hope H. (G3)

1 Mile | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Indy Wind Homeister R B Jr 114 L
2 Rexson's Rose Maragh R 112 L
3 Sweetnorthernsaint Dominguez R A 120 L
4 Yes Yes Yes Decarlo C P 113 L
5 Chatain Velasquez C 112 L
6 Strong Contender Prado E S 120 L
7 Istan Bravo J 113 L
8 Rehoboth Cruz M R 116 L
9 Sir Greeley Velazquez J R 118 L
10 Ecclesiastic Castro E 113 L
11 Big Lover Castellano J J 114 L
12 Carrots Only Turner T G 114 L
13 Edenwold Bejarano R 115 L

Sightseek · #83 01-04-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Here's the field.....Chatain is in ( for whatever it's worth )

9th (5:10)
Hal's Hope H. (G3)

1 Mile | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Indy Wind Homeister R B Jr 114 L
2 Rexson's Rose Maragh R 112 L
3 Sweetnorthernsaint Dominguez R A 120 L
4 Yes Yes Yes Decarlo C P 113 L
5 Chatain Velasquez C 112 L
6 Strong Contender Prado E S 120 L
7 Istan Bravo J 113 L
8 Rehoboth Cruz M R 116 L
9 Sir Greeley Velazquez J R 118 L
10 Ecclesiastic Castro E 113 L
11 Big Lover Castellano J J 114 L
12 Carrots Only Turner T G 114 L
13 Edenwold Bejarano R 115 L

Now this is a horse with a lot of starts under it's belt!

SniperSB23 · #84 01-04-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You think Sir Greeley will be making 12-15 starts a year?

How many, pray tell, did this running machine make last year?

He made 17 starts between April '05 and May '06 before getting a badly needed six month break. I'd expect he will put together another similar streak although 12-15 is more realistic. There aren't too many other horses out there racing 17 times in a 13 month span with the majority of those starts in stakes company.

To be exact, 10 of those 17 were in stakes races.

blackthroatedwind · #85 01-04-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

He made 17 starts between April '05 and May '06 before getting a badly needed six month break. I'd expect he will put together another similar streak although 12-15 is more realistic. There aren't too many other horses out there racing 17 times in a 13 month span with the majority of those starts in stakes company.

It is easier to manipulate data...

How many starts did he make in 2005 and 2006. I assume he made at least 12-15 during one of those calendar years.

blackthroatedwind · #86 01-04-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Now this is a horse with a lot of starts under it's belt!

Yeah, and a one turn mile is more to his liking. He's probably just too slow.

Mach Ride is going to win the Mr. Prospector earlier in the day.

SniperSB23 · #87 01-04-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It is easier to manipulate data...

How many starts did he make in 2005 and 2006. I assume he made at least 12-15 during one of those calendar years.

13 in 2005, 8 in 2006 with a six month break.

blackthroatedwind · #88 01-04-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

13 in 2005, 8 in 2006 with a six month break.

Thank you.

King Glorious · #89 01-04-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

13 in 2005, 8 in 2006 with a six month break.

That's 21. Pedigreequery shows him with 19 career starts. Which is right? And did he not race at all as a 2yo in 2004?

Gander · #90 01-04-2007, 01:16 PM

Mach Ride is going to win the Mr. Prospector earlier in the day.[/quote]

Slam Bammy.

Sightseek · #91 01-04-2007, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yeah, and a one turn mile is more to his liking. He's probably just too slow.

Mach Ride is going to win the Mr. Prospector earlier in the day.

Without having PP's, over Weigilia and Kelly's Landing? (has High Finance raced since the Perryville?)

KirisClown · #92 01-04-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's 21. Pedigreequery shows him with 19 career starts. Which is right? And did he not race at all as a 2yo in 2004?

21 starts

SniperSB23 · #93 01-04-2007, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's 21. Pedigreequery shows him with 19 career starts. Which is right? And did he not race at all as a 2yo in 2004?

He has 21 starts with 7 wins and 5 seconds and just under $418,000:

http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NR/rdo...HalHopePPs.pdf

Debuted in January of his 3yo season. Ran terribly twice that month and didn't return until April which started the 17 races in 13 months string. Then took six months off and has made two starts since.

SniperSB23 · #94 01-04-2007, 01:25 PM

By the way, this is a pretty nice field for a G3 in early January. Looks like the decision to cut this race back from two turns at 9 furlongs to one turn at 8 furlongs was a good one. Now if only they'd do the same for the Holy Bull.

blackthroatedwind · #95 01-04-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Without having PP's, over Weigilia and Kelly's Landing? (has High Finance raced since the Perryville?)

I guess High Finance could win, though he was supposed to go in the Malibu, and one has to always be concerned when West Point misses a Grade 1. Kelly's Landing is ridiculous and I don't like Wegilia and would have to think the mud had a lot to do with his last win.

I haven't seen the pps but I think Mach Ride is a good horse. A VERY good horse.

blackthroatedwind · #96 01-04-2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

By the way, this is a pretty nice field for a G3 in early January. Looks like the decision to cut this race back from two turns at 9 furlongs to one turn at 8 furlongs was a good one. Now if only they'd do the same for the Holy Bull.

They did.

Gander · #97 01-04-2007, 01:29 PM

Its a great field. Could easily pass as a grade 2 and I have seen plenty of grade 1's not as good as this.

Gulfstream does a wonderful job with Saturday cards.

SniperSB23 · #98 01-04-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They did.

Nice, I totally missed that. Makes way more sense that way.

Sightseek · #99 01-04-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I guess High Finance could win, though he was supposed to go in the Malibu, and one has to always be concerned when West Point misses a Grade 1. Kelly's Landing is ridiculous and I don't like Wegilia and would have to think the mud had a lot to do with his last win.

I haven't seen the pps but I think Mach Ride is a good horse. A VERY good horse.

I wouldn't call Kelly's Landing ridiculous against this field, he does seem to run a good one now and then, although are most of those at 7f?

SniperSB23 · #**100** 01-04-2007, 01:38 PM

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I wouldn't call Kelly's Landing ridiculous against this field, he does seem to run a good one now and then, although are most of those at 7f?

He's generally considered a Churchill specialist but he did run well at Gulfstream last year in an allowance, probably his best effort not at Churchill or on polytrack.