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Old 12-28-2006, 11:01 AM
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i'm telling you dahoss, rupe and i have been on opposite sides of this discussion numerous times. nowadays most times i just leave it. he knows what i want, and i know he has failed to produce....

dwl was/is reviled for being so successful. it's drifted away from him for the most part, now many gleefully attack his former pupil, todd pletcher. he's the top dog now, so it's his turn.
pletcher follows in his teachers footsteps nicely and im not referring to the winning which luka$$ hasnt done much of the last 5-6 years for the kinda stock hes had to be well under 20%. im well aware of the farm pletchers relative has where all the cripples are at, he dont give a shiat either just like his former boss
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:05 AM
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pletcher follows in his teachers footsteps nicely and im not referring to the winning which luka$$ hasnt done much of the last 5-6 years for the kinda stock hes had to be well under 20%. im well aware of the farm pletchers relative has where all the cripples are at, he dont give a shiat either just like his former boss
I was right on the rail about 100 yards from the finish line at the 2006 BC. Pletcher walked right passed me on his way down to see Fleet Indian when she was injured. Pletcher's face was stone cold blank. Simply no emotion at all. The pace of his walk didnt increase, he just calmly walked down to where she was and back. That was all.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:06 AM
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Wayne Lukas is the best thing to ever happen to thoroughbred Racing. He revolutionized the business.

His single greatest accomplishment however was taking a bowed mare and winning a Grade 1 with her off a layoff, after her previous trainer demonized him for even attempting a comeback with a horse she classified as finished. He made her eat those words, and silenced the critics.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:21 AM
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Wayne Lukas is the best thing to ever happen to thoroughbred Racing. He revolutionized the business.

His single greatest accomplishment however was taking a bowed mare and winning a Grade 1 with her off a layoff, after her previous trainer demonized him for even attempting a comeback with a horse she classified as finished. He made her eat those words, and silenced the critics.

LOL the best thing ever huh? well your entitled to your opinion. my trainers had 3 horses this year coming off bows. 2 won 1st time back and last week the most recent ran 2nd. lord of the game also had a bow and won how many races. this is not uncommon
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:30 AM
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LOL the best thing ever huh? well your entitled to your opinion. my trainers had 3 horses this year coming off bows. 2 won 1st time back and last week the most recent ran 2nd. lord of the game also had a bow and won how many races. this is not uncommon

With all due respect to your Hawthorne connections, turning Azeri around is a much more impressive feat.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:32 AM
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With all due respect to your Hawthorne connections, turning Azeri around is a much more impressive feat.
i wasnt trying to compare feats lol between claimers and azeri, was just stating it isnt uncommon. by the way are you aware how much talent and heart azeri had before she was layed upLOL? luka$$ didnt bring the talent outta her
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:35 AM
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i wasnt trying to compare feats lol between claimers and azeri, was just stating it isnt uncommon. by the way are you aware how much talent and heart azeri had before she was layed upLOL? luka$$ didnt bring the talent outta her

Lukas MADE her a star. She was finished and he stepped up to the plate, laid those magic hands on her and turned her into the champion she became.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:37 AM
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Lukas MADE her a star. She was finished and he stepped up to the plate, laid those magic hands on her and turned her into the champion she became.
Azeri was a star way before Lukas got her.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:38 AM
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Lukas MADE her a star. She was finished and he stepped up to the plate, laid those magic hands on her and turned her into the champion she became.
oh man, lol seems youve been paying numerous visits to mr dopeman if you truly believe what you just said. i think the horse was already a star LOL
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:40 AM
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oh man, lol seems youve been paying numerous visits to mr dopeman if you truly believe what you just said. i think the horse was already a star LOL

How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:41 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:41 AM
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's true though.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:42 AM
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Actually Lukas did make Azeri a champion in the minds of many fans. Before he got her she ran two very similar campaigns and pretty much beat up on the same mediocre horses in one slow race after another. Lukas, on the other hand, ran her in tougher spots and brought her act to NY where she showed what she was really made of. She is another horse who's true mettle was defined in defeat with her exceptionally valiant effort in the 1 1/4 mile Personal Ensign.

I'm not Lukas's biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination but he was a trailblazer in this game and to deny that is lunacy.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:42 AM
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It's true though.
lol are you saying this with a straight face?
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:43 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.
I cant tell if you are joking or being serious. Lukas had her only to get her ready for the Breeders Cup Classic and that was after she won TWO eclipse awards.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:45 AM
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I cant tell if you are joking or being serious. Lukas had her only to get her ready for the Breeders Cup Classic and that was after she won TWO eclipse awards.
I hope you are joking as this is absurd.
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I hope you are joking as this is absurd.
What is absurd about it?
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:47 AM
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Lukas had her in the Apple Blossom and won just like she did the two previous years. She then lost 3 straight until she beat Sightseek. But what did he do that Laura didnt.
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:48 AM
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How can you say that with a straight face? She was just another mane and tail until the master went to work and turned her around.

im sorry but this is absolutely hilarious LMFAO! that post is worthy of the archives!
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Old 12-28-2006, 11:48 AM
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What is absurd about it?

Lukas took a bowed horse that the previous trainer said was finished and turned her into a true champion. Denying that is just silly.
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