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Old 12-13-2006, 05:01 PM
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I was at Hollywood Park the day she defeated Snow Chief, I went to see him and couldn't believe the performance of Melair, I was in awe. I don't think she ever ran again unfortunately, soundness was an issue with her.
How could I forget Melair. Old age catching up to me.
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Old 12-13-2006, 05:23 PM
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I hope you aren't serious. You make your name on the racetrack. A great actor, president, doctor is as likely to have some mediocre kids as well. Do their accomplishments get diminished by their kids? Nonsense. There is nothing that can be taken away from Spec Bid.
Your reading comprehension skills might need big improvement.

Re-read my post again.

In my opinion, Spectacular Bid is arguably the greatest horse of all-time. Put it this way....if I ever had to vote for who I believe was the greatest horse ever...he would be the horse who gets my vote...albeit reluctantly.

I totally agree that horses should be judged based upon what they show on the race track....just as sires and broodmares should be judged based upon what they throw and prouduce in the breeding shed.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:02 PM
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Here's that maiden race...

Danseuse -vs- Capote Belle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cYWh3cSpUY
Thanks for posting this... I hadn't seen that.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:47 PM
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I spent my high school weekends walking horses for D Wayne, and i got to walk Terlingua a few times and Great Lady M also. They were both wicked fast. I agree with Cannon Shell on Pine Tree Lane also. She sent Groovy back to New York with his tail waggin with a 43 half in the 86 BC. Very Subtle also gave Groovy a good ol feminie but whuppin.
Not sure if anyone remembers Ski Goggle, but she was one fast filly too. She was undefeated and shipped out to Belmont to face Princess Rooney in the Acorn i believe, and promtly ran her off her feet.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:52 PM
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I spent my high school weekends walking horses for D Wayne, and i got to walk Terlingua a few times and Great Lady M also. They were both wicked fast. I agree with Cannon Shell on Pine Tree Lane also. She sent Groovy back to New York with his tail waggin with a 43 half in the 86 BC. Very Subtle also gave Groovy a good ol feminie but whuppin.
Not sure if anyone remembers Ski Goggle, but she was one fast filly too. She was undefeated and shipped out to Belmont to face Princess Rooney in the Acorn i believe, and promtly ran her off her feet.
The Wheel Turns ran one of the fastest 1/4's ever.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:11 PM
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I remember Pine Tree Lane's debut. I believe it was at Aqueduct in the winter, but it may have been the Fall, and she was owned by Teddy Sabresse and trained by Parisella. Anyway, I was in the OTB on John Street, which was one of the first, if not the first, OTB in Manhattan to show a live video feed. The horses are going to the gate, and mind you this is late 1984 or early 1985, so late odds changes, especially substantial ones, were rare at best, and she went from 7-1 to 9-2.

They didn't even need to run the race.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:13 PM
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I remember Pine Tree Lane's debut. I believe it was at Aqueduct in the winter, but it may have been the Fall, and she was owned by Teddy Sabresse and trained by Parisella. Anyway, I was in the OTB on John Street, which was one of the first, if not the first, OTB in Manhattan to show a live video feed. The horses are going to the gate, and mind you this is late 1984 or early 1985, so late odds changes, especially substantial ones, were rare at best, and she went from 7-1 to 9-2.

They didn't even need to run the race.
Yeah Sabarese and Parisella had some run with fillies back then.
Cheap Seats, Jones Time Machine, Pine Tree Lane, Kamikaze Rick, etc.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:13 PM
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:14 PM
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Pine Tree Lane was later sold in the Horses of racing Age sale at Saratoga where Lukas bought her. I remember seeing her in the ring that day.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:19 PM
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I remember Jones Time Machine in California before her New York invasion. She was a fast one too. And getting back to Balletos ATF Crimson Saint. The first horse i ever groomed was Terlinguas baby brother Pancho Villa. Broke his maiden 2nd out paying like a 100 bucks. Then hooked Phone Trick in a nw1. Then we went to Aqueduct and beat Spend a Buck in the Bay Shore. Sorry for rambling, but Crimson Saint not only was fast but threw some fast runners.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:24 PM
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I remember Jones Time Machine in California before her New York invasion. She was a fast one too. And getting back to Balletos ATF Crimson Saint. The first horse i ever groomed was Terlinguas baby brother Pancho Villa. Broke his maiden 2nd out paying like a 100 bucks. Then hooked Phone Trick in a nw1. Then we went to Aqueduct and beat Spend a Buck in the Bay Shore. Sorry for rambling, but Crimson Saint not only was fast but threw some fast runners.
I for one love to hear the personal, hands on stories. They have more depth and carry more weight than the 'book knowledge' IMO.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:30 PM
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I remember Jones Time Machine in California before her New York invasion. She was a fast one too. And getting back to Balletos ATF Crimson Saint. The first horse i ever groomed was Terlinguas baby brother Pancho Villa. Broke his maiden 2nd out paying like a 100 bucks. Then hooked Phone Trick in a nw1. Then we went to Aqueduct and beat Spend a Buck in the Bay Shore. Sorry for rambling, but Crimson Saint not only was fast but threw some fast runners.
Im your groupie... do with me what you wish... just tell me Crimson Saint/Terlingua stories.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:53 PM
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Soviet Problem.......she was hella fast.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:04 PM
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Ok Balleto, just a little tidbit about Terlingua. Wayne always called her "Beefcake". She was muscle on top of muscle. I did not know much about Crimson Saint, but Wayne would sometimes remark that CS passed on her soundness problems to Terlingua. I would spend alot of mornings hosing down her legs after she trained. On the other hand, Pancho had legs like steel pipes. He later developed throat problems which shortened his carear.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:06 PM
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I remember Pancho Villa shipping in for the Bay Shore. In those days " D Wayne off the Plane " was gold. He jogged and paid $35.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:12 PM
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Hey BTW, i remember when we were cooling out Pancho Villa after finishing 2nd to Phone Trick in that Nw1. Wayne said Alan, were getting the hell away from that Phone Trick, he's the fastest horse in america. Were going to show them New Yorkers what california speed is. I just remembered that because you mentioned D Wayne off the Plane..
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:15 PM
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Hey BTW, i remember when we were cooling out Pancho Villa after finishing 2nd to Phone Trick in that Nw1. Wayne said Alan, were getting the hell away from that Phone Trick, he's the fastest horse in america. Were going to show them New Yorkers what california speed is. I just remembered that because you mentioned D Wayne off the Plane..
That's great. I never realized he was coming in off a loss to Phone Trick. Man, there were some good horses then. I remember when Phone Trick ran at Belmont. He was something.
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:25 PM
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I was at Hollywood Park the day she defeated Snow Chief, I went to see him and couldn't believe the performance of Melair, I was in awe. I don't think she ever ran again unfortunately, soundness was an issue with her.
I believe the late internal fractions were 1:08 flat for six furlongs, 1:19 4/5ths for seven furlongs, and the mile of course was 1:32 4/5ths.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:19 AM
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How can forget about Safely Kept and Xtra Heat those were two
fast fillies.
Thank You. Extra Heat Fastest I ever saw ,and outrun the boys too! Maybe behind at the 1-4,1-2 mile twice three times tops entire career.Look it up could be wrong, do not think so. and according to John Salszman fastest he ever saw If only she hung on in B.C.Sprint you all would agree!
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:50 AM
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Soviet Problem.......she was hella fast.

Good call on that one, almost forgot about her...
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