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VOL JACK · #81 11-17-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I don't disagree that Australian, or any race caller overseas, are solid, accurate and top-notch. But to judge American-based callers utilizing field size is a tough go because American field size is quite low. If it were larger, we'd call larger!

Race callers use the silks, not the saddle cloths. I use the colored cloth only in an absolute pinch, but more frequently use my marker colored silks on my program in the "brain cramp" moments of a call.

Race calling is tough... it's like music. Some people like a certain genre and hate others and visa-versa.

You must have been wondering what artistic genius designed Sterling Heats' silks when you were there calling race 6 on Nov.6th.

the_fat_man · #82 11-17-2008, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

Alot of the Aussies (and South Africans) seem to be sharp analysts and appear to detect moves from horses and riders. They seem attuned to alot of subtleties that escape alot of US callers.

Is this ever on the money. Some of the comments during a race by 'top' U.S. announcers are LAUGHABLE. Durkin is particularly bad at correctly detecting moves and identifying the pace (based, one would think, on the way the jocks are riding) before fractions are posted (he has much company with the latter).

It's 2008. Let's keep track announcers for ENTERTAINMENT purposes -- there will always be those 'fans' who get a kick out of 'ARRRRRRRRRRR'. However, we have the technology to implement TRAKUSlike systems and take away all the guesswork out of watching a race. Is there anything more pleasant that MUTING out Denman and (accurately) enjoying a race at DMR? Then again, this is an industry that lives to deliver FLAWED DATA.

P.S. we really don't need GEOGRAPHICALLY DISPLACED ACCENTS doing race calls. Let's give the job to region specific accents.

citycat · #83 11-17-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I don't disagree that Australian, or any race caller overseas, are solid, accurate and top-notch. But to judge American-based callers utilizing field size is a tough go because American field size is quite low. If it were larger, we'd call larger!

Race callers use the silks, not the saddle cloths. I use the colored cloth only in an absolute pinch, but more frequently use my marker colored silks on my program in the "brain cramp" moments of a call.

Race calling is tough... it's like music. Some people like a certain genre and hate others and visa-versa.

Very interesting. So I do have a question if you dont mind. Some tracks (like Mountaineer) have what we call "house silks" for the horses and we do not use our own personal silks there. Is this harder or easier or make no difference.

FGFan · #84 11-17-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

I asked earlier, are you calling at Fairgrounds? If not who is it?

Thanks,

Spyder

John G. Dooley, regular caller for the last couple of years at The Fair Grounds and Arlington.

TheSpyder · #85 11-17-2008, 04:18 PM

Thank you....he's very good.

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Originally Posted by FGFan

John G. Dooley, regular caller for the last couple of years at The Fair Grounds and Arlington.

Travis Stone · #86 11-17-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by citycat

Very interesting. So I do have a question if you dont mind. Some tracks (like Mountaineer) have what we call "house silks" for the horses and we do not use our own personal silks there. Is this harder or easier or make no difference.

I give Peter Berry lots of credit... having to re-memorize the same silks over and over must be tough. By the end of the night, I think my mind would be close to exploding!

Travis Stone · #87 11-17-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Thank you....he's very good.

Sorry I missed your question...

John G. is great! Great guy... "Away and rrrrrrrunning at the Fair Grounds!"

philcski · #88 11-17-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by citycat

Well I am not sure what exactly happened. The first 8 races were called by Wrona but the 9th and 10th sounded like John Asher. Maybe Wrona had to leave? Or got ill?

Whatever the case go watch and listen to the call of the tenth at CD yesterday. Its a trainwreck.

It was Asher... and it was definitely a trainwreck, but it isn't his job, so I'll give him a pass.

My honest opinion... I thought Travis was the best and I hope he gets the job.

Peter Berry · #89 11-17-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I give Peter Berry lots of credit... having to re-memorize the same silks over and over must be tough. By the end of the night, I think my mind would be close to exploding!

Travis is correct about the mind explosion. The first few races are easy enough but as the night wears on there's more focus required.

VOL JACK · #90 11-17-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Berry

Travis is correct about the mind explosion. The first few races are easy enough but as the night wears on there's more focus required.

If the same group owns PID that owns MNR, why are owner sils allowed at one and not the other??

rkinnin · #91 11-17-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Who's calling at the Fairgrounds?

Its the Arlington guy.

Peter Berry · #92 11-17-2008, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

If the same group owns PID that owns MNR, why are owner sils allowed at one and not the other??

I'm guessing that because Mountaineer runs at night and often in the snow - versus twilight summer fixtures at Presque Isle - management wants to make it more viewer friendly.

The Bid · #93 11-17-2008, 07:22 PM

The polkadots have to go at Mountaineer

Wrona took a lot of late money moved to 4-5
Neumann floated up to 4-1
Travis is long on board 10-1
Collmus is steady 5-2
Dave Johnson 4-1
John Asher 99-1

VOL JACK · #94 11-17-2008, 09:45 PM

John Asher 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999-1

The Bid · #95 11-17-2008, 09:54 PM

Asher just got gate scratched. Was lame in the post

VOL JACK · #96 11-17-2008, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Asher just got gate scratched. Was lame in the post

You would think that the Derby winning Tafel silks would be easy to pick up.

I might understand if was the orange&white checkerboard silks coming down the lane.

The Bid · #97 11-17-2008, 10:04 PM

The problem with the orange and white checkerboard silks coming down the lane is they usually come down the lane 7 or 8 lengths behind the winners

VOL JACK · #98 11-17-2008, 10:08 PM

That is gonna change change thursday...The Heat was waiting on the orange saddlecloth for his mug shot.

docicu3 · #99 11-18-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Who is he? Don't like him at all.

In case you didn't see the piece from DRF on this very subject on the mate from down under!!

http://www.drf.com/news/article/99969.html

Of the 5 guys they chose for the "audition" of the derby it is surprising that guys like Durkin or Vic "Soupy Sales" were not included in the mix. I still don't understand how these guys call a field of 20 horses. It has to be impossible to keep that many horses and silks straight.

Linny · #**100** 11-18-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

In case you didn't see the piece from DRF on this very subject on the mate from down under!!

http://www.drf.com/news/article/99969.html

Of the 5 guys they chose for the "audition" of the derby it is surprising that guys like Durkin or Vic "Soupy Sales" were not included in the mix. I still don't understand how these guys call a field of 20 horses. It has to be impossible to keep that many horses and silks straight.

Maybe those guys declined the offer?