6/14 (CD): Stephen Foster Day

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Oh you got me there.

Do you still feel the same way? He's now G1-placed on dirt and got $200,000 for the run. Was it still a waste of time?

[Kasept]

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Have to say... Having Curlin to watch is a treat.

So what's the deal with his situation in NY? Can he not run in the Whitney or Woodward?

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Do you still feel the same way? He's now G1-placed on dirt and got $200,000 for the run. Was it still a waste of time?

I really don't care. What do you want me to say? Is the brinks truck on the way to your house right now because of this race?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I really don't care. What do you want me to say? Is the brinks truck on the way to your house right now because of this race?

You made a huge deal about how moronic it was to run the horse, then after he runs second, you say you really don't care. You weren't the only one, but I'm pretty sure had he run like ****, you'd be beating your chest.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You made a huge deal about how moronic it was to run the horse, then after he runs second, you say you really don't care. You weren't the only one, but I'm pretty sure had he run like ****, you'd be beating your chest.

I thought the whole purpose of any competitive sport was to actually win...I guess I was wrong. Yay. He picked up a check.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I thought the whole purpose of any competitive sport was to actually win...I guess I was wrong. Yay. He picked up a check.

OK. So by that mindset, no one should've entered except Curlin.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

OK. So by that mindset, no one should've entered except Curlin.

Yes and by that mindset lets completely forget that this is one of the top turf horses in the country and there are much better opportunities for him on grass with a much better payday then what he recieved today.

I just don't see how running for second does anything to improve his chances this fall.

[Storm Cadet]

I actually like Einstein's connections running him today...get's a 200 grand paycheck in a still early season plus he gets more black type grade 1 dirt for future breeding. Can't hurt.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yes and by that mindset lets completely forget that this is one of the top turf horses in the country and there are much better opportunities for him on grass with a much better payday then what he recieved today.

I just don't see how running for second does anything to improve his chances this fall.

Pants,

I think you're off base on this. This enhances Einstein reputation, as Ron said above, in the breeding shed. A prestigous Gr. I placement versus the reigning Horse of the Year. Plus, where exactly is there more money to be made right now in this start that he was ready for? You realize the Manhattan purse was $400,000? So a win there is $240,000 back and the placement here is $200,000. But the Gr. I dirt placement means more than another Gr. I grass win for him.. Plus they saved the ship...

Of course I'm off base. It's not the sport and the horrible direction it's in.

I don't know how these people with ridiculous money not realize they're buying a baby, in part, to a fraudulent second place finish in the Stephen Foster. Hell, they probably won't know who was in the field outside of Curlin.

Gamblers and fans of horse racing, not horse ******* come last again. Why even bother.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Collected a $200,000 check. Sure doesn't seem like a waste of time to me.

More dough for the fen phen plaintiffs

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Of course I'm off base. It's not the sport and the horrible direction it's in.

I don't know how these people with ridiculous money not realize they're buying a baby, in part, to a fraudulent second place finish in the Stephen Foster. Hell, they probably won't know who was in the field outside of Curlin.

Gamblers and fans of horse racing, not horse ******* come last again. Why even bother.

I mostly agree with you CP.

As far as this race meaning more value for breeding, I totally agree.

Einstein beat Barcola and some allowance horses. Doesn't matter what the race is named or the horse that romped away to win. Einstein never competed with Curlin in this race. Einstein is debatably a contender in the turf division, and this was a bit of a risky placement, if the goal is champion turf horse.

If you wanted to make a longshot case for Einstein running here, you could say he is a sound horse, and that running on the dirt could put some speed into him.

Even when the logic is against it, it is hard to root against Einstein/Pitts.

[arulus]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Einstein beat Barcola and some allowance horses. Doesn't matter what the race is named or the horse that romped away to win.

I like how everyone makes a big deal about the quality of fields before the race, but then dismiss it as soon as the race is run in order to diminish the accomplishments of the winners/top three. Yeah - Brass Hat, Delightful Kiss, Grasshopper - I haven't ever heard of them before. Where'd they just ship in from, a Maiden Claimer at Ruidoso Downs?

[westcoastinvader]

I just watched real time and the replay from the OTB and thought Leparoux did a lousy job and then a great job on Einstein all in the same race.

Got him hit, wedged and blocked into the back stretch, then made a shrewd decision to save ground and keep grinding away behind the 'tank-like' Curlin, and hoping for the best.

Turns out he got it.

Curlin with his 128 pounds was just a real nice example of class and caliber still being able to grind and gut for a win.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I thought the whole purpose of any competitive sport was to actually win...I guess I was wrong. Yay. He picked up a check.

Yeah, he could have run in a 333 K race and picked up the same money for a win

[jcs11204]

i never have been a big curlin fan... i tryed hard to beat him world cup day... but i am totally sold, and a full campaign this year will put him close to the top of all time greats, because no one over here is beating him... they really should run in the arlington million or the arc, because curlin is a freak, and a huge turf win would only rate him higher all time.... did he even ask him for run today ? i saw maybe one crack of the whip, easy victory... and he can only get stronger off of this

[Danzig]

near the top old time? i doubt it.


turf horses run on dirt to try to boost their fee, not the other way 'round.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by Danzig

near the top old time? i doubt it.


turf horses run on dirt to try to boost their fee, not the other way 'round.

who not ? i think there is some doubt about if he can even run in ny, so if the whitney and woodward are out, why not the arlington million ? as for all time great... i did say with a full campaign this year, when i say that i mean, todays effort, maybe 3 more races, 1 of the 3 has to be either the ARC or BCC! if he were to do that, he is a all time great legend like myself and chuck simon

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

who not ? i think there is some doubt about if he can even run in ny, so if the whitney and woodward are out, why not the arlington million ? as for all time great... i did say with a full campaign this year, when i say that i mean, todays effort, maybe 3 more races, 1 of the 3 has to be either the ARC or BCC! if he were to do that, he is a all time great legend like myself and chuck simon

welll, if that's as high as you're setting the bar, i'd say he's already there.