Met Mile

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Thank you. I just didn't understand how Sun King could go off at 7/2 and Political Force (better than SK last out) could go off at odds of over 20-1. Would have been foolish of me to not take a stab with those odds. I know SK's last was a prep for this one, but I just saw PF as a playback.

I agree 100%. I was expecting something like 5 or 6 to 1 on Sun King and about 10-1 on Politcal Force.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It's understandable as in your old moniker Eurobounce, you talked s hit about Zito. But why shouldn't he have been 7/2, who should have been bet more?

Not saying someone should have been bet more. Saying that 5 or 6 to 1 in more logical. And this is well stated by Declans.

[hockey2315]

By the way- Chatain would've crushed this field. . .

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by todko

They only ran .10 faster than the $46k allowance horses the race before. Pretty sad.

The race before it was on a different surface.

However, it was just 0.71 seconds faster than an N2X ALW race earlier on in the card.

[sumitas]

that 6th race was a 50k opt/cl and the horses were pretty darn good in that field. they ran the final 1/4 in 23.78 wheras in the Met Mile the final f was 24.48.

[Pedigree Ann]

Okay, will you who bad-mouthed Ronny agree he belongs in G1 stakes races? A one-turn mile is not his best configuration, but he still beat Silver Wagon, Half Ours, Sun King, Latent Heat, and he was giving weight to every horse in the race except SW. Not much weight, mind you - this isn't really a handicap anymore, it it?

Ron really looked like a pony when he came up next to Corinthian, didn't he? How tall is that sucker, anyway? He looks HUGE.

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Okay, will you who bad-mouthed Ronny agree he belongs in G1 stakes races? A one-turn mile is not his best configuration, but he still beat Silver Wagon, Half Ours, Sun King, Latent Heat, and he was giving weight to every horse in the race except SW. Not much weight, mind you - this isn't really a handicap anymore, it it?

Ron really looked like a pony when he came up next to Corinthian, didn't he? How tall is that sucker, anyway? He looks HUGE.

I thought he was setup perfectly until Edgar moved him a tad too soon. Still a game effort.

[sumitas]

his 1/2 brother, 3 yr old Vitruvius, is 2 for 2.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Sun King just doesnt have it anymore. The horse doesnt have any improvement at all in him. This is sad, as I like this horse. I didnt understand him being 7/2 in this race at all.

Any time you post about any horse trained by Nick Zito you should include the disclaimer you offered with your previous banned name Eurobounce that you have a personal dislike for the guy. It taints everything you say involving his horses.

Anyone that knows anything about racewatching realizes two things about today's Met Mile.....one - the pace was tepid at best which hampered a deep closer like Sun King and two - a closer like him wants to move outside of horses when rallying and given his absurd ride he had absolutely no chance. However, if you are just molding your posts to suit some personal animus then I guess it is impossible to see things clearly. Or else you just have absolutely no idea how to watch a horse race.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I thought he was setup perfectly until Edgar moved him a tad too soon. Still a game effort.

now now pp; this is not pino we're talkin bout.

[mclem10011]

Who won The Met Mile, and how?

[IrishofNDMan]

I just like when Prado whipped Political Force in the face, then just pissed him off and he charged up.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Nope. Nothing regarding today's race convinced me Lawyer Ron is a grade 1 horse. He had the best of setups and was outfinished.

i agree. fwiw!!

[Indian Charlie]

now, i'm no commentator fan or anything, and i think he's a tad overrated, but i was disappointed zito did not run him in the met mile today, especially since it not only turned out to be as bad as expected, but paceless as well!

[blackthroatedwind]

Running a 6YO, off multiple injuries, who has had trouble staying sound, in the Met off a nine month layoff isn't exactly the kind of move that lands trainers in the Hall of Fame.

That being said, if he had a prep he might well have dusted that field today, that is unless High Finance had run today instead of yesterday.

.71 seconds faster than He's a Pioneer. Wow! That was some Grade 1 field.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

.71 seconds faster than He's a Pioneer. Wow! That was some Grade 1 field.

Yes, and He's a Pioneer won while 4 lengths behind a half mile pace of 47.40 (1.70 seconds slower than the Met Mile pace)

That leads me to believe that the pace was fast enough for the closers in the Met.

[stonegossard]

Sorry DrugS.

No hat for you. That was some ride by Coa on SK. Not saying he was gonna win...but man...tough to win with that assinine ride.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Sorry DrugS.

No hat for you. That was some ride by Coa on SK. Not saying he was gonna win...but man...tough to win with that assinine ride.

Can you tell me what you thought was so bad about that ride? It's really an honest question and I'm wondering because someone on a different board said that Zito "greeted" Coa in a not-so-friendly way after the race. I've watched the replay a few times and I'm not certain what he did wrong...and I am no Coa fan.

NT

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The problem Zito would have with his ride is that riders were avioding the rail all day along--and it didn't appear to be the best place to be, that's for sure, at least from the few horses who decided to race on it during parts of their race.

Sun King has post four---with three quicker horses inside of him---including a rabbit and need-the-lead Half Ours. When you compound that with the fact that all the other riders were out to avoid the rail....and Coa is a rider who likes coming inside of horses when he has an opening....he wasn't a lock to get his circling trip.

The other closer in the race--Silver Wagon--yeah Latent Heat crossed over on him and got him a little rank and he had to steady mildly early in the race---but that was FAR from the kind of trouble Gary Stevens was making it out to be in the TVG coverage...I don't think he lost his focus and gave up there--he just ran like an empty horse.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Can you tell me what you thought was so bad about that ride? It's really an honest question and I'm wondering because someone on a different board said that Zito "greeted" Coa in a not-so-friendly way after the race. I've watched the replay a few times and I'm not certain what he did wrong...and I am no Coa fan.

NT

Well.....I just didnt think the inside part of the track was the place to close with SK. I bet him and would have been happier if Coa stayed on wide a bit and made a run on the outside. Kinda of where the top two ran.

Like you, I am no fan of Coa and would have been much happier with Nakatani (who I also dont really like...tells you how much I like Coa).

I didnt hear about the Zito thing...but I certainly wouldnt blame him. The horse was poorly placed.