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Old 05-24-2007, 07:46 PM
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Ok i'm ready to talk about the card. Hope the rest of you are as well.

First off...

Third race-

Anyone think Double Trouble is vulnerable?

Bosset could give her all she can handle but her races so far in NA have been less than inspiring.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:04 PM
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Pillow--use the search function.........

I guess you dont take your own advice....we are already talking about the carryover on another thread.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:05 PM
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Pillow--use the search function.........

I guess you dont take your own advice....we are already talking about the carryover on another thread.
So what? It didn't have its own thread yet.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:11 PM
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So what? It didn't have its own thread yet.
i was just giving you a hard time. I really dont care how many threads there are.

BT and Pillow- I agree with you on race 3. Frankel is in a HUGE slump. Really hard to take this horse on a short price.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:18 PM
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What do you guys think of the drop in class by Toms West in the 4th? That is a kind of the drop that I dont like to see by the connections. Seems like the gave up on the horse.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:23 PM
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What do you guys think of the drop in class by Toms West in the 4th? That is a kind of the drop that I dont like to see by the connections. Seems like the gave up on the horse.
Well he was running for Maiden 32000 in the winter so it's really not that significant of a drop considering.

I don't like him one bit, however. Will probably be overbet due to Talamo.

I'm leaning toward leaving Gary John off the ticket as well. I'm liking Soul Work and Gotta Getcha.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:07 PM
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Pillow--use the search function.........

I guess you dont take your own advice....we are already talking about the carryover on another thread.
I did. There is no thread for 5/25. As to not mislead people who don't check the thursday thread for the friday thread, I figure it would be appropriate to have a thread for friday night's card.

Have a good day, sir.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:06 PM
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Ok i'm ready to talk about the card. Hope the rest of you are as well.

First off...

Third race-

Anyone think Double Trouble is vulnerable?

Bosset could give her all she can handle but her races so far in NA have been less than inspiring.


R3)
7-5 ML on Double Trouble is a pretty tough number to swallow. Also, Talamo hops off to ride for Mandella on the #4 Princess Ezra (who i don't like) i find it hard to believe Frankel requested Blanc for this mount, b/c this one is on the poly and i'll take Talamo on the cush over Blanc all day.

R6) Extremely tough 50K claimers; im stuck

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Old 05-25-2007, 10:33 AM
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Ok i'm ready to talk about the card. Hope the rest of you are as well.

First off...

Third race-

Anyone think Double Trouble is vulnerable?

Bosset could give her all she can handle but her races so far in NA have been less than inspiring.
What's wrong with Fun Logic on the Cushion? Two starts, a win and a second to Cushion monster Cantabria. One can't assume that every turf horse will take to AW (Poly, Cushion, Tapeta, etc) or that every AW horse will take to turf. Frankel went through a spell at Saratoga a couple of years ago where he had numbers like this for a time - virus in the barn?
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Old 05-25-2007, 11:50 AM
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Fun Logic is, well, Logical......two times on the cushion were pretty good. I assume she is not the horse of Double Trouble but it is possible as she looks to get a good trip. I cant figure out why Blanc is up for Frankel, nor do I think Double Trouble is a true speed horse.....alot of x factors.

By far the toughest race to figure out is the MSW turf 6f event. Wow....could go obvious, but some of the firsters are interesting.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:06 PM
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Fun Logic is, well, Logical......two times on the cushion were pretty good. I assume she is not the horse of Double Trouble but it is possible as she looks to get a good trip. I cant figure out why Blanc is up for Frankel, nor do I think Double Trouble is a true speed horse.....alot of x factors.

By far the toughest race to figure out is the MSW turf 6f event. Wow....could go obvious, but some of the firsters are interesting.
Root, I think that race is as easy as 6-7-8....I want to single the 6 but would rather toss those two in as precautionary, the 12 maybe, with the bottom side breeding
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:09 PM
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Fun Logic is, well, Logical......two times on the cushion were pretty good. I assume she is not the horse of Double Trouble but it is possible as she looks to get a good trip. I cant figure out why Blanc is up for Frankel, nor do I think Double Trouble is a true speed horse.....alot of x factors.

By far the toughest race to figure out is the MSW turf 6f event. Wow....could go obvious, but some of the firsters are interesting.
I think that I'll know exactly what I am doing with DT after I watch the replay. I want to see if he was a run away speed horse or just a horse that inheriated the lead because she was fresh. I think Blanc gets a perfect trip here off the 5, who is playable given his TG but trip wise, DT should get a perfect trip
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It bothers me that Talamo jumped off Double Trouble. Wouldn't you think the kid would want future rides from the Frankel barn? Does Mandella have that much juice with this kid or did Joe see something he didn't like.......horse had nada in the tank the last quarter and albeit it was a stakes race the horse didn't seem to run like his foreign wins.

Why would Talamo take a mount from an inferior horse???
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:25 PM
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My guess is that the connections, probably owners, didnt like the way he was on the lead in that last race they opted to go elsewhere....I do not think it was Talamos call. He and Frankel were joined at the hip winning at a 50% clip for a while at the FG and at Santa Anita so it is rather strange.
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Old 05-25-2007, 10:16 PM
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My guess is that the connections, probably owners, didnt like the way he was on the lead in that last race they opted to go elsewhere....I do not think it was Talamos call. He and Frankel were joined at the hip winning at a 50% clip for a while at the FG and at Santa Anita so it is rather strange.
I think this was right.....Blanc was up to bring him from off the pace. AH, Blanc just said Bobby was upset with the fact she was on the lead last time out.............So, I was right
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I think this was right.....Blanc was up to bring him from off the pace. AH, Blanc just said Bobby was upset with the fact she was on the lead last time out.............So, I was right
Root, look at the quote from above. I HAD THIS FRIGGIN 5 horse....****
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now that baze fuc'd my tickets, here's what it was:
1,2,3/3/2,4,6,7,8,12/1,7/4,5/4
3/4/6,7,8/1,7/4,5/4
3/3,4/6,7,8/2,3,6/4,5/4
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:46 PM
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It bothers me that Talamo jumped off Double Trouble. Wouldn't you think the kid would want future rides from the Frankel barn? Does Mandella have that much juice with this kid or did Joe see something he didn't like.......horse had nada in the tank the last quarter and albeit it was a stakes race the horse didn't seem to run like his foreign wins.

Why would Talamo take a mount from an inferior horse???
Agree, but Talamo might not be making decisions, and could have some sort of agreement in that if you ride this horse, you get to ride so and so in the future. That alone is the one reason I want to use all
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What's the consensus on the 7th? 4-Super Strut and 2-Running Free have the back class, but you have to go back over a year to find a win for either, and does either want the added distance? (Mulhall says that Running Free doesn't, which is a scary sign, while Dollase claims that Super Strut does.) Any chance that 5-Ring of Friendship gets an uncontested lead and wires the field to improve to 2 for 2 at a mile and a half?
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Old 05-25-2007, 02:51 PM
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What's the consensus on the 7th? 4-Super Strut and 2-Running Free have the back class, but you have to go back over a year to find a win for either, and does either want the added distance? (Mulhall says that Running Free doesn't, which is a scary sign, while Dollase claims that Super Strut does.) Any chance that 5-Ring of Friendship gets an uncontested lead and wires the field to improve to 2 for 2 at a mile and a half?
Those are the only two I am using, 2 and 4
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