Manny Robbed

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by gales0678

best team in baseball , lakers over , no sc footbal yet , place s/b full everynight scuds

Only losers go to USC football games

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

TJ is an elbow surgery.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...articleid=3486

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0228075730.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712090831.htm

Comeback To A Pre-injury Level Disappointing For Professional Baseball Players (Mar. 9, 2008) — Only forty-five percent of baseball players were able to return to the game at the same or higher level after shoulder or elbow surgery. Researchers found that overall, only 20 of the 44 players ...

Your right Chuck it's really not a surgery on the shoulder but not really a surgery on the elbow with the forearm tendon split and figure of 8 tendon wrap until the vascular supply takes hold. It's really kinda in no mans land below the shoulder and above the elbow but the point I thought the article or reviews were making were 1) It's done on an awful lot of kids and maybe too many and 2) One of your articles seems to imply that alot of kids never get back to where they were as pitchers strength and velocity wise.

With the recent decline if the Red Sox baseball is tough for me to stomach....they looked absolutely putrid against Texas.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Only losers go to USC football games

This is true.....

Oh by the way Scuds favorite player has been re-called and actually started. Hit a meaningless single for a 1-3 night. Might actually get a couple of more starts while Rowand is wounded.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

This is true.....

Oh by the way Scuds favorite player has been re-called and actually started. Hit a meaningless single for a 1-3 night. Might actually get a couple of more starts while Rowand is wounded.

He's not my favorite, but I like players that do their best with men in scoring position. That's just a quirk I've got.

http://fresno.grizzlies.milb.com/mil...pbp&pid=464299

Avg
Bases Empty .280
Runners On .328
Scoring Position .349
Season Totals .297

OBP
Bases Empty .303
Runners On .400
Scoring Position.423
Season Totals .340

SLG
Bases Empty .415
Runners On .516
Scoring Position.535
Season Totals .451

If he gets 4 or 5 at bats a day, he'll perform. If he plays in spots, then he'll press.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He's not my favorite, but I like players that do their best with men in scoring position. That's just a quirk I've got.

http://fresno.grizzlies.milb.com/mil...pbp&pid=464299

Avg
Bases Empty .280
Runners On .328
Scoring Position .349
Season Totals .297

OBP
Bases Empty .303
Runners On .400
Scoring Position.423
Season Totals .340

SLG
Bases Empty .415
Runners On .516
Scoring Position.535
Season Totals .451

If he gets 4 or 5 at bats a day, he'll perform. If he plays in spots, then he'll press.

Well, I'll tell you this....he certainly has heated up in the last 10 games at AAA (.333 ave, .372 obp, .509slg, Zero HRs) but if SF acquires an OF bat, he may be non-existent.

I've tried to ask questions for you about Velez in the end of year extravaganza last year, and why no one is taking a look, but no one is giving me the time or day.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

He's not my favorite, but I like players that do their best with men in scoring position. That's just a quirk I've got.

http://fresno.grizzlies.milb.com/mil...pbp&pid=464299

Avg
Bases Empty .280
Runners On .328
Scoring Position .349
Season Totals .297

OBP
Bases Empty .303
Runners On .400
Scoring Position.423
Season Totals .340

SLG
Bases Empty .415
Runners On .516
Scoring Position.535
Season Totals .451

If he gets 4 or 5 at bats a day, he'll perform. If he plays in spots, then he'll press.

Sounds like an excellent pinch hitter. If he ever learned to field he may have a future as a 25th man.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Sounds like an excellent pinch hitter. If he ever learned to field he may have a future as a 25th man.

No, he's a stick-figure type. They often have a spastic colon etc. If these people aren't busy, they start stressing, and things start falling apart for them. He needs to play all the time.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Well, I'll tell you this....he certainly has heated up in the last 10 games at AAA (.333 ave, .372 obp, .509slg, Zero HRs) but if SF acquires an OF bat, he may be non-existent.

I've tried to ask questions for you about Velez in the end of year extravaganza last year, and why no one is taking a look, but no one is giving me the time or day.

You're from Indiana. I don't really think I want to talk to anybody from that state for like atleast 5 years. If I respond, it's only because of 18 years of training in "moderation."

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You're from Indiana. I don't really think I want to talk to anybody from that state for like atleast 5 years.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If I respond, it's only because of 18 years of training in "moderation."

even evan byh?

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You're from Indiana. I don't really think I want to talk to anybody from that state for like atleast 5 years. If I respond, it's only because of 18 years of training in "moderation."

LOL!!!!!
I was in the McCain area. I just can't believe, you see mostly red in the state, but when it came to blue, it was 2 most populated areas. Indy and Gary.....and Gary shocks me in how populated they are....I thought there ranking was 5th, but apparently its 2nd in the state.

By the way Bayh is a modern conservative...don't make me go into that..

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by gales0678

[b]

even evan byh?

Yea, him too. What's that useless sperm giver called? Kevin Federline? Well this Evan Centerline is pretty useless too. Gales, each time I think about that state, I try to forgive n' forget, but I got this ice box where my heart used to be....Got this ice box where my heart used to be..Na-ooooo-hoo

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Sounds like an excellent pinch hitter. If he ever learned to field he may have a future as a 25th man.

Listen to the sound of the bat hitting the ball. That's not the way it sounds when a 25th man on a team is at bat.

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/m...ent_id=5794889

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/m...ent_id=5798619 (0:36-0:41= awesome)



"The San Francisco Giants finally got the power they've been seeking to shake up their offense. It just came from an unlikely source. Eugenio Velez, who was recalled from the minors a day earlier, homered for the first time in nearly a year and added a tiebreaking RBI double in the sixth inning and the Giants stayed hot at home with a 3-2 victory over the Pittsburgh Pirates on Tuesday night.

"He's got all the tools," San Francisco manager Bruce Bochy said. "He's been swinging the bat well in [the minors] and he brought it up here. Sometimes it takes time, playing time, for all that to surface."

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Listen to the sound of the bat hitting the ball. That's not the way it sounds when a 25th man on a team is at bat.

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/m...ent_id=5794889

http://sanfrancisco.giants.mlb.com/m...ent_id=5798619 (0:36-0:41= awesome)



"The San Francisco Giants finally got the power they've been seeking to shake up their offense. It just came from an unlikely source. Eugenio Velez, who was recalled from the minors a day earlier, homered for the first time in nearly a year and added a tiebreaking RBI double in the sixth inning and the Giants stayed hot at home with a 3-2 victory over the Pittsburgh Pirates on Tuesday night.

"He's got all the tools," San Francisco manager Bruce Bochy said. "He's been swinging the bat well in [the minors] and he brought it up here. Sometimes it takes time, playing time, for all that to surface."

Oh for pitchers to blow it by him with that long swing.

"The Giants have searched far and wide for offense at second base and it won't likely stop at Velez. After all, Velez has a meager .255/.296/.372 careeer batting line. Look for the Giants to try to upgrade the position before Friday's deadline."

2 career jacks in 326 AB's? Utility players who have done worse?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Oh for pitchers to blow it by him with that long swing.

"The Giants have searched far and wide for offense at second base and it won't likely stop at Velez. After all, Velez has a meager .255/.296/.372 career batting line. Look for the Giants to try to upgrade the position before Friday's deadline."

2 career jacks in 326 AB's? Utility players who have done worse?

Before the 2006 season, Victorino had 2 MAJOR LEAGUE doubles, 2 MAJOR LEAGUE home runs, and 12 MAJOR LEAGUE RBI. So, it's not always about digesting what they've done already. People can take a while to adjust to the better pitchers. Guys can improve after getting a full 3 or 4 hundred at bats/yr. for a couple seasons. Your limited ability to predict future ability is about as good as the Dodgers was when they let Victorino/Werth get away. If this guy had been given that(300-400 at bats/yr. for a couple years,) then I am sure you would see a nice player. This is a player that does well when getting at least 3 at bats/day. As you say, his swing is one that is not appropriate to bring out for spot hitting. It is a hard swing(a lash,) and that will only be kept in rhythm with constant at bats. I do not believe you can look at a guy's age and say they should of done this or that by now. I only think you can do that if they've had what I said(300-400 major league at bats/yr. for at least a season and a half.) Then, if they are not improving, you can make these big conclusions about a person.

All I know is when given at least 3 at bats/game in September (last year) he hit .341 in 85 at bats. When he has had at least 3 at bats/game this year, he has hit .363 (8 for 22 with 2 walks, and 2 strike outs.) When he has had 2 or less at bats/game this year, he is hitting .100 (2 for 20 with 6 strike outs n' no walks.) So, maybe they should stop acting like the Giants do(stupid,) and give the guy the starts he needs to show what he can do. He looks a hell of a lot stronger than he did in the spring. He looks 15 pounds stronger(I say that, because his legs look much stronger now.) Just about anybody that goes to Fresno gains weight. There is not all that much to do there (besides eat.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

He does his best with runners in scoring position. Say what you want about him, but I think you'll see the individual is this way. Not just in Fresno. At the major league level (pick a year 2007,2008, or 2009,) and I think you'll see this. He is consistently better when more chips are on the table. He hits the least with no men on. He hits better with men on base. He hits best with men in scoring position(it's pretty much the reverse image of TEX'S post-season situational stats.) If Tex had hit better with risp (in last year's post,) then the Halos would have advanced.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

He went 2 for 4 today. In a tie game(0-0 in the bottom of the 10th,) he started out the inning with a hit. Got sacrificed to 2nd base. With 2 outs, Winn knocked him in (to win it.) I've always said he's a clutch individual. Meanwhile, Lewis struck out in the middle of the rally. Good luck getting Velez out of the line-up now. He started out the day poorly(hit into a d.p. in his 2nd at bat.) Showed his stuff by coming back with 2 hits. Needs to get at least 3 chances to hit in a game. You think Bochey has got this through his fat head yet? THey really think this guy doesn't deserve to start? When he has 3 or more at bats/game this year, he is hitting .385 (10/26.)

"Fck Fredno"-E. VELEZ

[Cannon Shell]

I have seen the future......and its name is Matt Latos

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have seen the future......and its name is Matt Latos

He's weird that way (his 1 hit given up is a home run.) Does he have 1 pitch he gives up home runs on, or what's the issue?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Kershaw trying to come up huge tonite in St. Louis. Shut out through 7 2/3.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Wow. When he's on. He's pretty filthy. If he gets incredibly bold, we could use him twice in the post(instead of that woman.)