3/28 (GP): Florida Derby (G1); Swale (G2); Appleton (G3)

robfla · #1 03-25-2009, 02:03 PM

9TH (5:11) Swale S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 This Ones for Phil Gomez G K 120 L
2 B Z Warrior Velazquez J R 114 Blk-On L
3 Sabi Sabi Lezcano J 118 L
4 Custom for Carlos Desormeaux K J 114 L
5 Brave Victory Leparoux J R 116 L
6 Big Drama Coa E M 120 L

10TH (5:44) Florida Derby (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Toby the Coal Man Leparoux J R 122 L
2 Quality Road Velazquez J R 122 L
3 Casey's On Call Baird E T 122 L
4 Dunkirk Gomez G K 122 L
5 Sincero Trujillo E 122 L
6 Theregoesjojo Desormeaux K J 122 L
7 Danger to Society Madrid M 122 L
8 Europe Decarlo C P 122 L
9 Stately Character Douglas R R 122 L

11TH (6:15) Appleton S. (G3)

7 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Passager (FR) Lezcano J 122 L
2 Vanquisher Montalvo C 120 L
3 Kiss the Kid Trujillo E 122 L
4 Granizo (BRZ) Nunez E O 114 L
5 Bold Start Desormeaux K J 120 L
6 Avanti Avanti Lopez P 116 L
MTO Hypocrite Cruz M R 120 L
8 Cannonball Douglas R R 120 L
9 Artic Cry Leparoux J R 114 L
10 Pickapocket Gomez G K 120 L
11 T. D. Vance Velazquez J R 122 L
12 Fagedaboudit Sal Decarlo C P 120 L

The Indomitable DrugS · #2 03-25-2009, 02:09 PM

Nicanor will be about 4/5 in the 5th race.

Sightseek · #3 03-25-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Nicanor will be about 4/5 in the 5th race.

Don't torture us with your avatar!

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Quality Road.

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 03-25-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Don't torture us with your avatar!

Sorry,

Couldn't find one of Joe Tessitore.

robfla · #5 03-25-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sorry,

Couldn't find one of Joe Tessitore.

Sightseek · #6 03-25-2009, 02:24 PM

Switch to that, it's more kind on the eyes!

Bobby Fischer · #7 03-25-2009, 03:44 PM

Danger to Society is kind of an unknown factor in this one. A lot of the 3rd choice wagering will gear towards JoJo, and Danger is arguably more deserving.

Bobby Fischer · #8 03-25-2009, 04:45 PM

Toby The Coal Man's finish last out (37.6 final 3/8ths) was surprisingly fast. To be honest the pace was kind of soft and I'm not too crazy about this horse. It was a quicker time than I expected, and i will want to look at the variant for that day and maybe hand time it. Just a nose margin, but the place horse had a great trip with the exception of maybe being asked a little early.

EDIT - no the time is right , and per DRF the track variant was about the same 21 vs 20. He could save ground all the way. Honestly handicapping the 3rd and 4th slots is moot. This isn't a betting race as much as it is an important prep.

Dunbar · #9 03-28-2009, 11:34 AM

fixed odds at TheGreek.com:

301 Dunkirk +125
302 Quality Road +185
303 Rest of the Field +185

A prop:

Danger to Society will finish top 3 Listed runners must start for bets to be action. $200 limit.
321 Yes +225
322 No -305

Matchups:

Dunkirk vs Quality Road Listed runners must start for bets to be action. $200 limit.
311 Dunkirk -150
312 Quality Road +120

Quality Road vs There Goes Jojo Listed runners must start for bets to be action. $200 limit.
313 Quality Road -160
314 There Goes Jojo +130

--Dunbar

Mike · #10 03-28-2009, 12:05 PM

Danger To Society scratched

IrishofNDMan · #11 03-28-2009, 03:03 PM

Playing a little on Stately Character hoping for the upset, and boxing in a tri with Dunkirk and Theregoesjojo.

GL

#12 03-28-2009, 04:48 PM

I love to see that.

Go back to Ireland.

philcski · #13 03-28-2009, 04:50 PM

Hell of a performance. JV must have known he had a monster if he skipped the big money in Dubai.

Bobby Fischer · #14 03-28-2009, 04:52 PM

no reason to knock either. They both ran big.
Quality Road might be the triple crown horse this year.

SCUDSBROTHER · #15 03-28-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

no reason to knock either. They both ran big.
Quality Road might be the triple crown horse this year.

Has a good chance to win the Derby, but it's too deep a year for him to win the T.C.

Bobby Fischer · #16 03-28-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Has a good chance to win the Derby, but it's too deep a year for him to win the T.C.

Belmont is a big stretch but he stamped himself Derby Preakness favorite.

For those who felt Friesan Fire wasn't brilliant enough have a more talented alternative...

#17 03-28-2009, 04:53 PM

Bias or not that's a tough SOB.

Bobby Fischer · #18 03-28-2009, 04:56 PM

now does Pletcher/Dunkirk pull hijinx and rush into something to get more earnings for Derby? or just let it play out naturally and go Preakness, Belmont ?

randallscott35 · #19 03-28-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

now does Dunkirk pull hijinx and rush into something to get more earnings for Derby? or just let it play out naturally and go Preakness, Belmont ?

I can't see them going to the Lex for that. They await the Preakness, but he may yet get in at 150k. Time will tell.

eajinabi · #20 03-28-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

now does Dunkirk pull hijinx and rush into something to get more earnings for Derby? or just let it play out naturally and go Preakness, Belmont ?

Go for the Peter Pan and beat Also rans then build the hype for the Belmont and scratch the day before. Its called the Casino Drive Strategy