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Old 04-05-2009, 07:41 AM
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What would happen if two were tied at #20?
I THINK it goes to overall stakes earnings.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:24 AM
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Coin flip?
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:31 AM
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It's actually top 19 plus that European auto qualifier.
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Old 04-05-2009, 08:38 AM
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IF the Euro decides to run...
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:35 AM
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IF the Euro decides to run...
I would be shocked if he dindn't run no matter how poorly he runs in the Blue Grass due to the fact he gets a 100K bonus just for running in the Derby.
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:38 AM
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It's a Shadwell horse and honestly I'm not sure a $100k bonus is going to make Sh. Hamdan or break him. He's indicated that he'll need a good run in the BG to go to Louisville.
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Old 04-05-2009, 09:49 AM
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But do the two Godolphins (Regal Ransom/Desert Party) and one Shadwell (Mafaaz) all enter, if it keeps a Coolmore (Dunkirk) horse on the outside looking in? Shades of Danthebluegrassman??
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:03 PM
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I doubt the Sheikhs are that vindictive. The Magnier colors appeared in Dubai for the first time this year and found the winner's enclosure twice.
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Old 04-05-2009, 12:25 PM
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So with Maafaz and the two from Dubai, only the top 17 on the earnings list would go.

Did I read somewhere that one of the Dubai colts might be held out until the Preakness?

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Old 04-05-2009, 12:43 PM
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Well, the two from Dubai are part of the top 20. Godolphin has indicated they may hold one back for the Preakness (most likely, Regal Ransom) but if they are both doing well, they might go with both of them in the Derby.
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:44 AM
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Default Ky Derby graded earnings list..Wow

I looked at the list on E-dailey this a.m., and realized for the first time this is a quality bunch this year. I could go 15 deep and probable make a case for each. The last 2 week-end preps has shown this is wide opened and could be some nice odds with legitmate picks.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:33 AM
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1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981
4 I Want Revenge $774,000
5 Papa Clem $760,000
6 Desert Party $641,667
7 Quality Road $600,000
8 General Quarters $595,645
9 Friesan Fire $570,465
10 Old Fashioned $530,000

11 Musket Man $485,000
12 Hold Me Back $438,000
13 Terrain $448,330
14 West Side Bernie $385,160
15 Chocolate Candy $370,000
16 Win Willy $230,000
17 Giant Oak $169,256
18 Charitable Man $150,000
19 Dunkirk $150,000
20 KDKC* Maafaz
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21 Theregoesjojo $133,063
22 Flying Private $119,000
23 Massone $115,000
24 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
25 Summer Bird $100,000
26 Join in the Dance $90,000
26 Flying Pegasus $90,000
27 Take the Points $85,000
28 Atomic Rain $77,500
29 Just A Coincidence $75,000
30 Imperial Council $72,500
31 Hello Broadway $63,860
32 Nowhere to Hide $55,500
32 Feisty Suances $55,000
34 Proceed Bee $47,000
35 Sumo $40,000
36 Stately Character $37,500
37 Bear's Rocket $36,000
38 Justdontcallmejeri $30,000
39 Poltergeist $30,000
40 Buzzin and Dreamin $25,000
41 Jeranimo $24,000
42 Rendezvous $24,000
43 Parade Clown $23,500
44 Bee Cee Cee $20,000
45 Patena $20,000
46 Captain Cherokee $15,000
47 Flat Out $12,500
48 Masala $12,500
49 He's Really Big $12,000
50 Kelly Leak $9,000
51 Danger to Society $0
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:39 AM
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Think of how much fun it would have been if Regal Ransom, Desert Party, Vineyard Haven and Midshipman had stayed in the US each with their original trainer.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:42 AM
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Since it looks like Dunkirk will get in, who gets the mount?

Will Gomez give it up for POTN?

If so, will Prado get it back?

Julian Leparoux was red hot at the Churchill fall meet last year. He deserves a look as Pletcher is
still looking for his first Derby win.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:51 AM
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What's with all these horses running in the Alaska Derby? Is that graded?
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:39 AM
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1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250
3 Square Eddie $774,981
4 Desert Party $641,667
5 I Want Revenge $774,000
6 Quality Road $600,000
7 Friesan Fire $570,465
8 Musket Man $485,000
9 Terrain $410,830 BLUE GRASS
10 West Side Bernie $385,160
11 Chocolate Candy $370,000
12 Old Fashioned $330,000 AK DERBY
13 Hold Me Back $288,000 BLUE GRASS
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(14) 16 Win Willy $180,000 AK DERBY
(15) 17 Giant Oak $169,256
(16) 18 Papa Clem $160,000 AK DERBY
(17) 19 Charitable Man $150,000 BLUE GRASS
(18) 19 Dunkirk $150,000
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(19) 22 Theregoesjojo $133,063
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(20) KDKC Maafaz BLUE GRASS
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24 General Quarters $130,645 BLUE GRASS
25 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000
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27 Flying Private $94,000 AK DERBY
28 El Crespo BLUE GRASS
28 Flying Pegasus $90,000
30 Take the Points $85,000
31 Atomic Rain $77,500
32 Just A Coincidence $75,000
33 Imperial Council $72,500
34 Join in the Dance $67,500 AK DERBY
35 Hello Broadway $63,860
36 Nowhere to Hide $55,500
37 Feisty Suances $55,000
38 Proceed Bee $47,000
39 Massone $40,000 BLUE GRASS
39 Sumo $40,000
41 Stately Character $37,500
42 Bear's Rocket $36,000 BLUE GRASS
43 Justdontcallmejeri $30,000 BLUE GRASS
43 Poltergeist $30,000 AK DERBY
45 Buzzin and Dreamin $25,000
46 Jeranimo $24,000
46 Rendezvous $24,000
48 Parade Clown $23,500
49 Bee Cee Cee $20,000
49 Patena $20,000
51 Captain Cherokee $15,000 AK DERBY
52 Flat Out $12,500 AK DERBY
52 Masala $12,500
54 He's Really Big $12,000
55 Kelly Leak $9,000
XX Danger to Society AK DERBY
I was looking at the earnings list at the top of this page and thinking "I wonder which of these horses are running this weekend". Then I scroll down and see the answer. Thanks for putting the info together, kasept.

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Old 04-06-2009, 10:43 AM
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is patena still on the the derby trail??
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:24 AM
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Quote:
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I THINK it goes to overall stakes earnings.
Both Charitable Man and Dunkirk have $150k in total stakes earnings. Does Dunkirk get the edge because he earned them in a G1 or does Charitable Man get it because he got them in a winning performance?

(This point will probably be moot as CM is expected to race this weekend and even if he finished 5th he'll probably get earnings. Interesting question though.)
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:25 AM
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is patena still on the the derby trail??
Unless he wins something this weekend, I'd say so. He hasn't got the earnings.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:08 PM
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Patena is Blue Grass bound... probably didn't care for the slop, likes synthetics and worked well today. I'm expecting an improved effort.
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