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Old 08-10-2006, 12:50 PM
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Not me, I am all over this horse, but I am most likely boxing an exacta and playing the pick three/four four deep so i am not technically ON HIM per say but he will be included.

Last year he was 30/1 ML and was like 10/1 odds when the line opened up, I can't find last years Million's tape but I forsure remember him making a MONSTER move and PVal getting stuck, hopefully they show it at Arlington on Saturday morning. he might even get some win money once I see how his TG's stand up
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Everyone is forgetting about Touch of Land.
He's got an interesting pedigree... I like him, but I need to look at little deeper into it tonight.
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:59 PM
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This is shaping up to be the race of the year in the US.

I read about Phoenix reach but I cannot take a horse that has been off for a year.

Question: Do the outside posts that EC and Cacique drew make a big difference at the ARlington configuration? It looks like they lose a little ground with the start being right before the end of the turn. They of course have the whole track to position themselves properly after that... any comments?
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:08 PM
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This is shaping up to be the race of the year in the US.

I read about Phoenix reach but I cannot take a horse that has been off for a year.

Question: Do the outside posts that EC and Cacique drew make a big difference at the ARlington configuration? It looks like they lose a little ground with the start being right before the end of the turn. They of course have the whole track to position themselves properly after that... any comments?
No, you want to be outside...If you get the 1 or 2 hole, you only have about 100 feet until you hit the rail, so you either GUN or break two lengths late to try and get position
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:23 PM
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No, you want to be outside...If you get the 1 or 2 hole, you only have about 100 feet until you hit the rail, so you either GUN or break two lengths late to try and get position
Makes physical sense. Its hard to tell from a little picture at the top of PP's. Ive watched the race a number of times before, just could not remember the start. Thanks.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:08 PM
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Dwyer's flight canceled..... trying again tomorrow.
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:28 PM
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Barn notes from Arlington...


‘PHOENIX’ JOCKEY DWYER’S FLIGHT CANCELLED – TRYING AGAIN FRIDAY
The mass murder terrorist plot – hopefully thwarted in its entirety at London’s Heathrow airport Thursday morning – has caused numerous travel changes in the plans of some major European players for Arlington Park’s International Festival of Racing Saturday.

Among them – the cancellation of English jockey Martin Dwyer’s Thursday flight from England for his scheduled mount on Winterbeck Manor Stud’s Phoenix Reach in Saturday’s 24th running of the Arlington Million.

Dwyer, 31, born in Liverpool, is tentatively scheduled on an alternate flight leaving England at 7:55 a.m. London time Friday morning, but with the nature of international airline traffic under present circumstances, that flight would be far from a certainty. In June, Dwyer won the Group I Epsom Derby aboard Sir Percy, but Phoenix Reach owner Andrew Christou is a great believer in fate – as well as positive thinking.

“Whatever is going to happen is going to happen,” said Christou Thursday morning, moments after Phoenix Reach was clocked in a half-mile grass breeze in :54 while the “dogs” were well out from the rail. “Yesterday, I thought we wanted to draw post position three, but now that we’ve got post six, I’ve been told that the middle of the field is a better place to be, so maybe that worked out in our favor.

“Phoenix Reach is not an easy horse to ride,” Christou said. “You can’t just set any American jockey on him and expect him to know all the horse’s little habits, but these things are outside our control. All we can do is assume that everything will work out for the best. That way, it usually does.”

Phoenix Reach accomplished his breeze with splits of :16, and :43, and then finished up in 1:06 3/5. “The last eighth was very impressive,” said Illinois State clocker Bobby Belpedio. “He looks very fit and racy.”

“I thought he went very well,” said Phoenix Reach’s trainer Andrew Balding on the way back to the barn after the move. “The only concern I have is that he was a little bit on the fresh side. He runs best when fresh – but I just hope he’s not too fresh.”

“He was nice and relaxed the first part of it,” said Belpedio, concerning that possible scenario. “I don’t know the horse, but he wasn’t rank. He wasn’t too much ‘on the bit’ even though he was dropped in along the rail. He knew he was going to work.”

RENE DOUGLAS DOING HOMEWORK FOR SATURDAY’S MILLION, BEVERLY D.
Arlington Park’s legendary rider Rene Douglas, the only jockey in history to win four straight Arlington riding championships, gets another chance to win his first Grade I Arlington Million this Saturday with the mount aboard Gestut Park Wiedingen’s Soldier Hollow.

Twice, Douglas has been extremely close in past renewals of Arlington’s centerpiece event, and in one of those times, his evasive actions might have cost him the race while saving Hall of Fame jockey Gary Stevens’ life.

“I had to put myself in his (Stevens’) position,” Douglas said of that sacrifice in the 2003 Arlington Million. “That could have been me on the ground. As it turned out, Gary got hurt badly anyway, but it would have been a lot worse if I’d allowed my horse to stay straight. There is no horse race in the world that is that important.

“Soldier Hollow’s trainer (German-born Peter Schiergen) is giving me a DVD today (Thursday) of all his horse’s races, as well as those of some of the other European horses,” said Douglas. “So I’ve got my homework cut out for me to do later today.”

British-bred Soldier Hollow, who finished second by a neck in his last start in Germany’s Group II Pferdewetten.de Trophy Stakes at the Cologne course June 18, and before that was second by a length in Italy’s Group I Premio Presidente della Repubblica at the Capannelle course on May 14.

Soldier Hollow breezed five furlongs on the main track Thursday morning in 1:06.80, with exercise rider Renata Poloprutska astride. During morning training hours, trainer Schiergen walked the turf course and pronounced it as “good ground,” and that any additional rain would make it “even better.”

“I’m excited to have another chance in the Million,” Douglas said, “and I also get to ride Royal Copenhagen – Mr. ‘D.’s horse – in the (Grade I) Beverly D., so this is going to be a great day for me. I think she’s going to give a very good account of herself in the Beverly D.”

ARLINGTON MILLION’S MAJOR RHYTHM A MAJOR LONG SHOT TO SALUTE
Longshot lovers can consider James Messineo’s Major Rhythm, winner of Arlington’s Grade III Stars and Stripes Breeders’ Cup Turf July 2, as worthy of a long look at 30-1 in the morning line.

“He worked good (breezed a half on the turf in :52 Wednesday with the “dogs” out),” said Major Rhythm’s trainer Ed Beam Thursday, “and he came back good. I’ll tell you one thing – he will not embarrass himself Saturday.”
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:41 PM
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I will be more than happy to ride Phoenix Reach. I can be up there tonight.
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I will be more than happy to ride Phoenix Reach. I can be up there tonight.
Great!

ArlJim can ride Ace and you get Mr. Reach!
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Old 08-10-2006, 03:03 PM
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Great!

ArlJim can ride Ace and you get Mr. Reach!
What!!!??? I thought you liked Ace and wanted him to win. You put me on his back and I guarantee he'd be all out of gas before the end of the warm-up and he will forever have lost interest in racing.

Let's just say I'd have a wee bit of trouble making the weight.
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What!!!??? I thought you liked Ace and wanted him to win. You put me on his back and I guarantee he'd be all out of gas before the end of the warm-up and he will forever have lost interest in racing.

Let's just say I'd have a wee bit of trouble making the weight.
Me too... I would need to drop 30 lbs to get down to 100lbs.
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Old 08-10-2006, 04:37 PM
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What!!!??? I thought you liked Ace and wanted him to win. You put me on his back and I guarantee he'd be all out of gas before the end of the warm-up and he will forever have lost interest in racing.

Let's just say I'd have a wee bit of trouble making the weight.
I love Ace..... my favorite horse now that Rakti and Powerscourt are off doing the baaaad thing.

His chances went from being 100 percent with Fallon to, well..... 99 percent so was thinking you could ride him and after the race? Come pick me up and together we'd ride him off into the sunset.

Works for me.

From Arlington barn notes...

Barn NotesRiders Named for Aidan O’Brien-Trained Horses

RIDERS NAMED FOR AIDAN O’BRIEN-TRAINED HORSES
According to Arlington Park racing officials, Garrett Gomez has been named to ride Ace (Ire) in Saturday’s Arlington Million, and John Velazquez will ride Ivan Denisovich (Ire) in the Secretariat Stakes.
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Old 08-10-2006, 04:38 PM
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Me too... I would need to drop 30 lbs to get down to 100lbs.
Nonsense Dahlink! You're perfect.
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I am not predicting anything yet but so far I have a feeling that this Phoenix Cross horse might be live, along with a couple other Euros...I always pay attention to the German that comes because they always screw me
Always beware the German horses because they are usually live and if you aren't careful, will totally screw you. I haven't decided who I like for this race yet. I know that it is going to be one hell of a race though. It is all going to be all about the pace and position. Whoever handicaps this race right gets props. This is a quality, quality field.
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:36 PM
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Anyone else like Primary?
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:40 PM
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I love Ace..... my favorite horse now that Rakti and Powerscourt are off doing the baaaad thing.

His chances went from being 100 percent with Fallon to, well..... 99 percent so was thinking you could ride him and after the race? Come pick me up and together we'd ride him off into the sunset.

Works for me.
Oo la la, now you're talking, no way do I pass up that offer.

I'll let Gomez handle the racing part of it, after the victory photo, I'll take it from there.

Btw, I think the selection of Gomez is a good one. I'm thinking he has a big chance to take it.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:34 PM
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Oo la la, now you're talking, no way do I pass up that offer.

I'll let Gomez handle the racing part of it, after the victory photo, I'll take it from there.

Btw, I think the selection of Gomez is a good one. I'm thinking he has a big chance to take it.
I just saw your post on the bragging rights thread and since everyone is behaving and just making picks, I'll say it here...

I LOVE YOU!

Ooops! i mean oh look! You picked Ace too. How nice.
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I just saw your post on the bragging rights thread and since everyone is behaving and just making picks, I'll say it here...

I LOVE YOU!

Ooops! i mean oh look! You picked Ace too. How nice.
I knew that would score points with you!! lol

Actually it was a real tough call and for me, the toughest race to select. It came down to him and gpk's English Channel. I just think the post will cost that one too much in the end. Ace's two races in the US last year were both very good. little known fact: I bet Ace both times at Belmont last fall.

maybe this year he will make ammends.
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I knew that would score points with you!! lol

Actually it was a real tough call and for me, the toughest race to select. It came down to him and gpk's English Channel. I just think the post will cost that one too much in the end. Ace's two races in the US last year were both very good. little known fact: I bet Ace both times at Belmont last fall.

maybe this year he will make ammends.
I played Ace at the BC but also figured i should just box up the Euros. It was a GOOD day!

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A bit about Primary, for anyone interested, from Thoroughbred News AU.
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Primary goes for glory in America on Saturday 11 Aug 2006
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Primary goes for Grade One glory in America on Saturday when he takes on home and Irish opposition in the six-runner US$400,000 10-furlong Secretariat Stakes on turf at Arlington Park.

Owned by Highclere Thoroughbred Racing’s Cricket Ground Syndicate and trained by William Haggas, the British raider is the race’s dark horse.

Primary drew the four stall in yesterday’s draw and will be ridden by Robby Albarado, a top rider at the track which is 30 miles to the North West of Chicago.

The three-year-old was made the 5/1 fourth favourite in the morning line odds behind 7/5 market leader Showing Up, 5/2 chance Go Between, both trained in the USA, and Irish challenger Ivan Denisovich who is a 4/1 chance.

Harry Herbert, managing director of Highclere Thoroughbred Racing, is excited by the challenge and so are the shareowners in Primary.

It had been hoped that 20 people associated with the horse would travel over to Chicago and some went yesterday but the security scare today could prevent the others, Herbert and Haggas make the journey.

Herbert commented today: “Primary is in good form and we found this race for him because of his pedigree. He is by Giant’s Causeway out of a Mr Prospector mare from the family of Fappiano which is very American.

“We felt that there weren’t huge opportunities for him at home and this race stood out as the one for him.

“Primary is an interesting horse as he has won four of his six starts and he definitely seems to be improving. Physically he is an impressive horse to look at - he has certainly got stronger and stronger as the year has gone on.

“This is his first crack of the year at Group One company. He has not run a bad race all year. Primary did not stay the mile and half of the Chester Vase but was only beaten three lengths by Papal Bull with Dragon Dancer in second.

“After that race, we were fairly short of options with him, and the Italian race was there with good prize money.

“We tried a different way of riding him there, coming from off the pace, and he won well which was encouraging as we had previously thought he was better suited to making the running.”

Primary won his first two races last year, a maiden at Leicester and a conditions race at Newmarket, both over seven furlongs, before disappointing in the Group One Darley Dewhurst Stakes. He was trained then by David Loder who stepped down from training at the end of that season.

Haggas, based at Newmarket, took over responsibility for the three-year-old who won the Group Three Betfred Classic Trial at Sandown on his April 29 reappearance over 10 furlongs.

Primary then stepped up to 12 furlongs in the MBNA Europe Bank Chester Vase on May 11 and tried to make all but faded in the final furlong.

He was then sent to Italy on June 17 for the 10-furlong Listed Gran Premio d’Italia at Milan which he won very well after being held up in the rear.

Herbert is looking forward to Saturday: “Primary is coming into the Secretariat in fine form though like any Group One, it will be a tough race. Whatever happens, we will learn more about him.

“With the pedigree he has, he would establish a stud value if he won on Saturday.

“William is happy with Primary who arrived in America on Monday. Primary did all his work before setting off and will just be exercised for the next two days before being unleashed on Saturday.

“We have not had very many American raiders - principally Petrushka and Lake Coniston, who both ran in the Breeders’ Cup.

“We thought about running Primary in the US$1-million race earlier in the year at Colonial Downs but in the end the quarantine situation was very complicated there and we thought it would be too big an ask of the horse.

“Quarantine is much easier at Arlington. It is the dream of owners to run in Group One races and to have a horse capable of going for such a race abroad is very exciting.

“We thought it important to have a local jockey on board. The rhythm of races over there is so different from British ones.

“Robby Albarado is one of the leading local jockeys and we are thrilled to have secured him.

“We are confident that we have Primary in the right spot and that he will run a big race. It is a great day of racing with the Arlington Million and Beverly D being run on the same card.”

Primary was bred in Kentucky, USA, and sold at Keeneland Sales in the same state as a yearling.

Herbert explained: “We bought him at Keeneland September Sales. We nearly didn’t get him vetted at the sale because we thought it probably would be a waste of time and money as we would not be able to afford him because of his pedigree.

“But thank goodness we did, as we were able to buy him for US$140,000 - which at the time was about £80,000.

“The fact that he has won Group Three and Listed races this year makes it particularly interesting for his future.”

Highclere Thoroughbred Racing is the most successful racehorse multiple ownership operation in Europe and has had 12 winners so far this year and collected prize money worth £246,000.

Herbert added: “The new syndicates were launched last month and they are going well. The stallion parades take place in October and the first yearling sale we go to is Deauville later this month.

“Our season is going well - Numeric won at Glorious Goodwood and we had two seconds and a third at Royal Ascot. The two-year-olds are starting to appear and we are looking forward to them running.”


http://www.thoroughbrednews.co.nz/in...onal/?id=25141

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‘ACE’ IN THE PLACE: IMPRESSIVE FRIDAY MOVE ON ARLINGTON GRASS
Irish-bred Ace – runner-up in the Grade I John Deere Breeders’ Cup Turf last fall but a leader among the European-based entrants for Saturday’s Grade I Arlington Million – had a strong blow-out in his introduction to Arlington Park’s turf course Friday morning under regular exercise rider John Frain.

Owned by Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor and Mrs. Harry McCalmont, Ace stepped onto the local lawn at 9:50 a.m., negotiated his move while well within himself, and was timed for the half in :56 while getting the last eighth in :13.

“Ace was very impressive,” said Illinois State clocker Bobby Belpedio shortly after the move. “He did it real easy.”

In his most recent trip to the post July 15 in Ireland’s Group III Ladbrokes International Stakes at The Curragh, Ace finished second by a head. The son of Danehill is trained by Irish conditioner Aidan O’Brien, who trained Mrs. Magnier’s Powerscourt to win last summer’s Arlington Million. Interestingly, Powerscourt won the 2005 Million coming off a runner-up finish in the Group II Scottish Derby at Ayr in mid-July last year.

Prior to last fall’s Breeders’ Cup Turf run at Belmont Park, Ace was always well placed when finishing third beaten less than a length in Belmont’s Grade I Joe Hirsch Turf Classic Invitational Oct. 1. That day he finished three-quarters of a length behind this year’s morning-line Million favorite English Channel, owned by James Scatuorchio.

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