New Column from Beyer

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I am no expert but I suspect Winstrol is pretty good for horses when administered correctly by a vet.

Administered properly in low doses Winstrol is no more dangerous to horses than the xray machine in the dentists office are to people. It is a federally approved drug in horses.

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I wish I had her number

me too

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Well, winstrol is banned in ten states now. The stuff can't be that good for horses in the long run.

If you read the latest stories in the mainstream media you wouldn't think there is a long run for horses

[freddymo]

Rite Moment went from running 60 to 70 BSF's in Nov 07 to 90 to 96 in Jan 08.. I have a feeling it wasn't 5 weeks of Winstrol Slot...More likely it was a unexpected visit from the Hay Fairy

[slotdirt]

I understand that in the proper dosage, it is probably useful, but Chuck, where does one draw the line with steroids? I'm just asking your opinion in particular.

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[quote=tiggerv]Latest article from Andrew Beyer. Apologies if this was already posted.

"Yet despite the evidence that the U.S. medication policy has been a failure, horsemen have regularly resisted most efforts to curb the use of medications. American racing is addicted to drugs, and American horses will never again be fueled by hay, oats and water alone. But until the industry faces the medication issue seriously, all of its efforts to address equine safety will be misguided."

QUOTE] he is right on and it goes way beyond horses. the whole damn nation is hooked on "meds". unfortunatley 3 years ago i came down with a chronic illness with no cure(menieres disease-chronic vertigo,deafness and balance loss). they had me on 6 to 8 different pills a day. probably only 2 of them did **** for me. since theres no cure, i feel like some kind of test market ginea pig. the drug companies are making a fortune whether this crap is good for people or the horses. race day meds should be a definite no-no. if a horse has to be doped up to run it probably should not be racing. but this whole drug and anything for the bottom line is a big problem for the whole society. it goes way, way beyond horse racing. capitalism is great, but greed and hypocrosy rule the country right now. instead of doing the right thing, its all about money,short cuts and doing the easiest thing. as long as theres a profit to be made. look for more horses to be carted off unless things change. and i don't care if they run them on down pillows!

[freddymo]

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Originally Posted by tiggerv

Latest article from Andrew Beyer. Apologies if this was already posted.

"Yet despite the evidence that the U.S. medication policy has been a failure, horsemen have regularly resisted most efforts to curb the use of medications. American racing is addicted to drugs, and American horses will never again be fueled by hay, oats and water alone. But until the industry faces the medication issue seriously, all of its efforts to address equine safety will be misguided."

QUOTE] he is right on and it goes way beyond horses. the whole damn nation is hooked on "meds". unfortunatley 3 years ago i came down with a chronic illness with no cure(menieres disease-chronic vertigo,deafness and balance loss). they had me on 6 to 8 different pills a day. probably only 2 of them did **** for me. since theres no cure, i feel like some kind of test market ginea pig. the drug companies are making a fortune whether this crap is good for people or the horses. race day meds should be a definite no-no. if a horse has to be doped up to run it probably should not be racing. but this whole drug and anything for the bottom line is a big problem for the whole society. it goes way, way beyond horse racing. capitalism is great, but greed and hypocrosy rule the country right now. instead of doing the right thing, its all about money,short cuts and doing the easiest thing. as long as theres a profit to be made. look for more horses to be carted off unless things change. and i don't care if they run them on down pillows!

Do you have any of those pills left?

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I understand that in the proper dosage, it is probably useful, but Chuck, where does one draw the line with steroids? I'm just asking your opinion in particular.

There are many different kinds of steroids in addition to the anabolics. They all have legit uses. There is no doubt that they can be abused. But we have never had ANY regulation with regards to anabolics and the same people who are howling about banning them are the people who have never even attempted to regulate them. The crap you hear about all the issues they cause is just noise. Of course there are side effect if abused. But they can certainly be of benefit to the racing animal when used in low doses in conjunction with a proper diagnosis. The real crime is the authorities have neglected to regulate these substances which absolutely led to abuse. Now they want to go so far overboard in effectively banning them, it is a joke in itself.

Use in sales horses especially yearlings can not be condoned