Doubling the DWC to 12 million, WOW!!!

[Scav]

http://www.drf.com/news/article/93341.html

That would be one sick as purse, just let me run third!!!!

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Scav

http://www.drf.com/news/article/93341.html

That would be one sick as purse, just let me run third!!!!

Thats what you get with crude oil at 110 bucks a barrel. They should rename the race in George Bush's honor.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Thats what you get with crude oil at 110 bucks a barrel. They should rename the race in George Bush's honor.

To funny.. Too true as well.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas

To funny.. Too true as well.

At least they are passing .000000000000000000000000000001 % of their profits to the racing world.

[SOREHOOF]

Ummm, since every thing that is bought by the Sheiks at 3 is retired to stud, they should make it for 2 year olds they buy after big wins at Saratoga.

[jcs11204]

i know for 12 million if i had a big time three year old i would have to strongly consider going to dubai, with 6x the purse of the kentucky derby, i dont see how you cant at least consider

[Scav]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

i know for 12 million if i had a big time three year old i would have to strongly consider going to dubai, with 6x the purse of the kentucky derby, i dont see how you cant at least consider

You guys are absolutely ridiculous. YOu have said some real stupid stuff, but do you realize how bad they would get beat? 3 year olds don't beat older this time of the year, MAYBE towards the end of the year, and even then it is stretching it...

[ArlJim78]

builds another state of the art racing facility, literally rolls out the red carpet each year for he world, invests in racing and breeding all over the world, doubles the purses of the WC,... when is this guy going to do something for the sport already?

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

builds another state of the art racing facility, literally rolls out the red carpet each year for he world, invests in racing and breeding all over the world, doubles the purses of the WC,... when is this guy going to do something for the sport already?

They do offer crazy purses there for mediocre horses.......the thing that sucks in another year we all will be riding bicycles to the track to bet the Dubai Cup.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

builds another state of the art racing facility, literally rolls out the red carpet each year for he world, invests in racing and breeding all over the world, doubles the purses of the WC,... when is this guy going to do something for the sport already?

More so, the dude is creating a CITY around a racetrack, right now, there is miles of sand there.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

builds another state of the art racing facility, literally rolls out the red carpet each year for he world, invests in racing and breeding all over the world, doubles the purses of the WC,... when is this guy going to do something for the sport already?

I don't care about new race tracks in Dubai.

I don't care if they roll out the carpet for the world.

I don't care how much money they give away for purses.

As for there racing and breeding investments....they do a great job of making American racing worse.

They have ruined a lot of nice 2-year-old private purchases by taking them to there black hole in Dubai. They are buying up quality 3yo's at an alarming rate and retiring them. The expensive yearlings they buy from American auctions tend to either never race or go to Europe.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

builds another state of the art racing facility, literally rolls out the red carpet each year for he world, invests in racing and breeding all over the world, doubles the purses of the WC,... when is this guy going to do something for the sport already?

... and for every story we hear I wonder how many more there are that are never publicized, like the money raised for the Riding for the Disabled Association of Dubai (RDAD) and Unicef through the annual Thanks a Million Draw at the DWC.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

... and for every story we hear I wonder how many more there are that are never publicized, like the money raised for the Riding for the Disabled Association of Dubai (RDAD) and Unicef through the annual Thanks a Million Draw at the DWC.

How about the one on HBO Real Sports a few years ago about the abuse of the young children they force into riding in the camel races over there. Real nice stuff. You do know who one of the biggest people behind camel racing is dont you?

If you haven't seen it , try and find it ...then tell me how great these people are.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

builds another state of the art racing facility, literally rolls out the red carpet each year for he world, invests in racing and breeding all over the world, doubles the purses of the WC,... when is this guy going to do something for the sport already?

Jim, and Gioia too..

While I appreciate your zeal for the DWC and enjoyment of International racing, perpetuating the notion that Sh. Mo in particular is doing good things for racing is utterly ridiculous. He's single-handedly destroying the game by disturbing the sport's competitive balance and effectively trying to simply buy control of it. Invests in breeding? He's not investing, he's maniacally trying to buy ALL the breeding. And of course there will never be a decent 3yo that sees a handicap season as long as Darley continues in their current fashion.

He's also created the disgusting nouveau scenario of the instant purchase of any young horse, or even any decent looking older horse, which will completely ruin the game for fans. Thanks to Mo, you can look forward to a 'Rollerball' style corporate game shortly where Darley, Godolphin, IEAH and Team Valor basically have bought any decent horse. There will be a few holdouts that don't need the money, but most operations or owners will be compelled to sell.

There is in fact a rumor from credible sources that Darley approached IEAH/Pompa Friday night with a $30 million offer for Big Brown. IEAH has a huge war chest and would rather campaign forward at this point, but you can see what you're dealing with. And of course IEAH themselves threw $2MM at Pompa for 75% of Big Brown off the maiden win last summer...

It's not 'sporting', as Sh. Mo's shills love to claim, just as it wasn't sporting to retire Bernadini. And $12MM for a single race is of course just obscene and garish and typical of the way he operates believing that throwing money at everything assures some kind of 'class'. It's actually embarrassing. What pleasure he can take when whichever American-bred juvenile he bought smashes the career earnings record in his 7th career start with $11,000,000 accrued from the World Cup win on the heels of his wins in the previous year's UAE Derby and 3 stages of Mahktoum Challenges...

[Danzig]

buying the stairway to heaven.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Jim, and Gioia too..

While I appreciate your zeal for the DWC and enjoyment of International racing, perpetuating the notion that Sh. Mo in particular is doing good things for racing is utterly ridiculous. He's single-handedly destroying the game by disturbing the sport's competitive balance and effectively trying to simply buy control of it. Invests in breeding? He's not investing, he's maniacally trying to buy ALL the breeding. And of course there will never be a decent 3yo that sees a handicap season as long as Darley continues in their current fashion.

He's also created the disgusting nouveau scenario of the instant purchase of any young horse, or even any decent looking older horse, which will completely ruin the game for fans. Thanks to Mo, you can look forward to a 'Rollerball' style corporate game shortly where Darley, Godolphin, IEAH and Team Valor basically have bought any decent horse. There will be a few holdouts that don't need the money, but most operations or owners will be compelled to sell.

There is in fact a rumor from credible sources that Darley approached IEAH/Pompa Friday night with a $30 million offer for Big Brown. IEAH has a huge war chest and would rather campaign forward at this point, but you can see what you're dealing with. And of course IEAH themselves threw $2MM at Pompa for 75% of Big Brown off the maiden win last summer...

It's not 'sporting', as Sh. Mo's shills love to claim, just as it wasn't sporting to retire Bernadini. And $12MM for a single race is of course just obscene and garish and typical of the way he operates believing that throwing money at everything assures some kind of 'class'. It's actually embarrassing. What pleasure he can take when whichever American-bred juvenile he bought smashes the career earnings record in his 7th career start with $11,000,000 accrued from the World Cup win on the heels of his wins in the previous year's UAE Derby and 3 stages of Mahktoum Challenges...

You can look at the other side, where he is pumping tons of money into the American industry by buying those horses, assuming the people that are selling, are putting that money back into the industry. It isn't like he is charging ridiculous amounts of money for his stallions either, they are all priced at the right level.

I to would love to see some of these horses continue to race, but the very fact that YEARLINGS sell for a million dollars at the sales prevents that, there is just too much money in the breeding side. WHEN THAT evens out, meaning when racing = breeding, then you will have an even industry.

All this industry is doing, is what every other industry in America is doing, consolidating....

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Scav

You can look at the other side, where he is pumping tons of money into the American industry by buying those horses, assuming the people that are selling, are putting that money back into the industry. It isn't like he is charging ridiculous amounts of money for his stallions either, they are all priced at the right level.

I to would love to see some of these horses continue to race, but the very fact that YEARLINGS sell for a million dollars at the sales prevents that, there is just too much money in the breeding side. WHEN THAT evens out, meaning when racing = breeding, then you will have an even industry.

All this industry is doing, is what every other industry in America is doing, consolidating....

They are creating a bubble economy Scav. The yearlings are selling for a million dollars to a lot of people hoping to be able to sell them to Shiekh Mo for $10 million off a maiden win. They aren't worth that million without the possibility of selling them to Shiekh Mo. A lot of people think that Shiekh Mo stopping spending money in America would be a disaster because the bubble would pop. And yeah, a lot of people in the industry that are thriving off that bubble would take a hit. In the long run though it might be the best thing for the sport for that breeding bubble to burst.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

They are creating a bubble economy Scav. The yearlings are selling for a million dollars to a lot of people hoping to be able to sell them to Shiekh Mo for $10 million off a maiden win. They aren't worth that million without the possibility of selling them to Shiekh Mo. A lot of people think that Shiekh Mo stopping spending money in America would be a disaster because the bubble would pop. And yeah, a lot of people in the industry that are thriving off that bubble would take a hit. In the long run though it might be the best thing for the sport for that breeding bubble to burst.

I couldn't agree with you more. But it is NO DIFFERENT then something like the housing economy in the US.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

With what Godolphin and others are doing, how can it ever even out?

Money eventually runs out, it always does, you can NEVER have enough of it, even this guy.

It is no different then say the Beer Industry. Right now in one of my final classes, we have to do a strategic audit on a company, the teacher picked the beer industry. The industry as a whole has 4 major players, and then a bunch of fringe players. It is exactly what is going on here. You have 4 major owners, some people that are trying to get to that level, and then you have the fringe players, that take what they can get.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Scav

It is no different then say the Beer Industry. Right now in one of my final classes, we have to do a strategic audit on a company, the teacher picked the beer industry. The industry as a whole has 4 major players, and then a bunch of fringe players. It is exactly what is going on here. You have 4 major owners, some people that are trying to get to that level, and then you have the fringe players, that take what they can get.

I understand where you're going with this, and it was brought up prior, but the top four major players in the beer market don't have unlimited pockets, or charge ridiculously low prices, to eliminte the others. They still, by large, keep the market competitive.