Freshman Sires

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

If you are your computer, here is the link to watch it live:

http://207.232.119.242/livesales/fasigtipton/

Thanks.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If nothing else, one valuable lesson to be learned from this thread is how foolish it is to repeat what others tell you if you don't understand it.

Hey!

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

She's primarily in the claiming game. We've been talking about sales. The average sale at Fasig-Tipton has been in the $160,000 range.

Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If nothing else, one valuable lesson to be learned from this thread is how foolish it is to repeat what others tell you if you don't understand it.

Don't understand what. And who is repeating anything? I am confused.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

You'd have better odds playing Mega Millions.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

Really?

that is a novel approach to ownership

sorry..tried to stay out of this because I don't know enough to participate, but...

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You'd have better odds playing Mega Millions.

No. All I need to do is have a good career, which is why I have been busting my ass at college.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Really?

that is a novel approach to ownership

sorry..tried to stay out of this because I don't know enough to participate, but...

That's what everyone wants right? The problem is finding it...haha

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Still don't need eight figures in the bank. Seven figures would probably be needed though.

I don't care what sale the horse comes from. Sales don't make the horses runners. Expensive purchase prices don't make the horses runners. I just want a horse that can run, win races, and is worth more than it's original purchase price. I have seen 30,000 dollar horses have better workouts at sales than 500,000 dollar horses before. Of course, these 30,000 dollar horses were at sales like OBS April, not Fasig Tipton Calder.

I don't care if I own a claimer, a GI animal, a turf horse, a route horse...I don't care. I just want something that can run that earns more for me on the track than it's original purchase price. In other words, an animal that can pay it's own bills will stay in my stable. I'm in the game for the love of the horses and the sport. I'm not really getting into it to make money because so few make money at it. It would be great if I did, but I'm not expecting to.

If you are serious about ownership someday, you HAVE to care about those things. They determine what you spend, where you spend it and who you spend it with. If you don't have a plan going in and stick to it, you are very likely to fail. Your shotgun...I love the game, where do I sign approach is naive

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

No. All I need to do is have a good career, which is why I have been busting my ass at college.

Yeah no extreme luck is involved.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Yeah no extreme luck is involved.

To be a racehorse owner?

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

To be a racehorse owner?

Jesustapdancingchrist.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Jesustapdancingchrist.

Sorry. Duuhhh, I'm being a little blonde this morning.

Everyone will pick on me for this statement...

[philcski]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

That's what everyone wants right? The problem is finding it...haha

Of course. But it's a lot tougher than you're making it out to be. Another person in this thread and myself own a couple two year olds we bought as yearlings, trained by yet another person in this thread. They were very modest prices, relative to what you COULD spend at the KEE Sept sales (about $20k each). By the time they hit the track, we will be $80k deep on these guys, which means even with statebred incentives (which, of course, was part of the "where do you spend" GBBob is referring to) we have maybe a 15% chance of recouping our investment.

Originally Posted by GBBob

If you are serious about ownership someday, you HAVE to care about those things. They determine what you spend, where you spend it and who you spend it with. If you don't have a plan going in and stick to it, you are very likely to fail. Your shotgun...I love the game, where do I sign approach is naive

Exactly


Now where do I sign

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

No. All I need to do is have a good career, which is why I have been busting my ass at college.

Post of the year!

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Sorry. Duuhhh, I'm being a little blonde this morning.

Everyone will pick on me for this statement...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Post of the year!

Thank you for that. I missed it the first time.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Thank you for that. I missed it the first time.

I owed you one for pointing out one I missed from her a few days ago.

There's something about her dazzling brilliance that makes you miss some of her more subtle gems. Or not so subtle.

[VOL JACK]

Can't beleive all of the unraced sires. At least they were undefeated.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by GBBob

If you are serious about ownership someday, you HAVE to care about those things. They determine what you spend, where you spend it and who you spend it with. If you don't have a plan going in and stick to it, you are very likely to fail. Your shotgun...I love the game, where do I sign approach is naive

If I have the money to spend, which I will before ever getting into this game, I don't see why I need to be concerned now with what I will own.

Naive...you have no idea my experiences in this sport which are more extensive than mosts, and I don't feel the need to talk about them because it would be viewed as bragging.

No one knows about my experiences except for one on this board, and he still doesn't know all of them.