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Old 11-26-2007, 08:00 PM
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i don't have that much a problem with missouri. wvu and the big east is the joke. osu has no right to claim foul after playing ysu, kent st and akron. kansas skated through the big 12 dodging texas and oklahoma.
uga's problem you don't know what team will show up. if it's the uga of the last couple weeks you have your hands full! hawaii is in the same position as boise st. last year. IF the lsu staff stays together through the bowl game and all it's wholes, lsu and usc are the best 2 teams in the country. usc MIGHT be playing the ball right NOW.
West Virginia looked pretty good against the only SEC team that they played. You guys really miss the point with all the conference bs. Teams play, not conferences. Everybody piles on Ohio State about the schedule but Arkansas played 4 bad teams (Troy, N. Texas, UT Chatt, and FL int'l) LSU played Va Tech but also never left the state when playing M. Tenn, Tulane and La Tech. FL schedules FAU, Troy (who is like a quasi SEC team since they play 1/2 the league)and W. KY. KY plays Louisville but also gets E. KY, Kent state, and FAU.Auburn at least played 2 legit non conference games but lost to S. FL who wasn't supposed to be good. I'm sure they wont make that mistake again.

I just find it hard to believe that if you watch a lot of college football you can determine that the SEC is so much better than everyone else and that a team like Missouri (who I admit dont really believe in) or West Virginia (who I do) couldn't be considered legit National Champions. Sure when USC plays their A game they are probably the best team but they did lose to Stanford and that alone is unforgivable. The Big East is at least as good as the Big 10and is better than the ACC. If that makes them a "joke" conference, then so be it.

And I am the worlds biggest mainland Hawaii fan but they dont have the manpower on D to stay with LSU. But they will score on them....alot.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:43 PM
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And I am the worlds biggest mainland Hawaii fan but they dont have the manpower on D to stay with LSU. But they will score on them....alot.
i've always liked Hawaii. i remember when dick toomey was HC and the Bows played nasty defense.
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:54 PM
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i've always liked Hawaii. i remember when dick toomey was HC and the Bows played nasty defense.
He coached AZ when they had the 'Desert Swarm' defense
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Old 11-26-2007, 08:59 PM
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He coached AZ when they had the 'Desert Swarm' defense
i think he left Hawaii to take the AZ job.
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:17 AM
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They played 2 of those games in miserable weather and one without their best player who happens to be the QB. I did not say they were the best team in the country or they should be in the BCS or championship game. I said simply that they could beat those teams which I believe to be true. If you dont think Hawaii would put up 40+ on those teams on a good field conditions you have missed the boat. There are no teams that I have seen play this year that could stop them from scoring, and scoring alot. At Hawaii where the conditions are always good, they can score alot of points. College teams just aren't built to defend that kind of offense which is why they are so successful despite having top talent. Though I would say that the recivers they have are as good at what they do as any in the college game. They run good routes and dont drop the ball and they can all run after the catch.

By the way USC would beat a combined team of Kansas and Missouri by 20.
I have no doubt Hawaii could score against either Missouri or Kansas, what I doubt is their ability to ever stop either of those offenses. They gave up 40 plus to La Tech and San Jose and nearly 30 to a Boise State that got beat by the PAC 10s worst team. Missouri putting up over 30 against Illinois, Oklahoma, Kansas...over 50 against colorado, Texas Tech is simply better than whom Hawaii was scoring against. Missouri has a better offense than Hawaii no matter how good Hawaii is. I"m pretty confident Missouri would score as many as they needed to to beat Hawaii. Of course USC would beat a combined Missouri/Kansas team by over 20...how many times has Reesing thrown to Maclin or has Daniel tossed to the Ks receivers?? If they played ONLY the Missouri team they would get beat!!
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:40 AM
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here's an interesting piece from yahoo sport's dan wetzel.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...yhoo&type=lgns
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