Question For Saratoga Folks - Page 4

boswd · #61 09-17-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogabrit

I don't believe Albany Airport would be fine at all. There's only 1 Breeders' Cup venue that doesn't have an airport that flies direct to the majority of the cities in the US and overseas-and that's Churchill.

But Louisville Airport has more flights a day than Albany and is also less than half the distance to the nearest Hub/International Airport than Albany is.

During the meet a steady stream of people are coming and going but when Breeders' Cup ever came to town everyone would arrive in a 48-72 hour time span

I don't think it would be a problem either. People would just make the proper adjustments on the getting flights in that are direct to Albany but are full. Most would pick up flights that would go through NYC which has flights to and from Albany almost on the hour every hour.

Bystander · #62 09-17-2007, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I really cannot believe I am wasting my time here, but that doesn't account for how humid it is. On a day where it is in the mid 80's, but a high dewpoint, it feels like at least 90 or higher. Don't you agree?

Someone obviously needs to tell you to "be nice."

It was stinking hot this summer.

SentToStud · #63 09-17-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogabrit

I don't believe Albany Airport would be fine at all. There's only 1 Breeders' Cup venue that doesn't have an airport that flies direct to the majority of the cities in the US and overseas-and that's Churchill.

But Louisville Airport has more flights a day than Albany and is also less than half the distance to the nearest Hub/International Airport than Albany is.

During the meet a steady stream of people are coming and going but when Breeders' Cup ever came to town everyone would arrive in a 48-72 hour time span

Don't the Euro horses fly charter? I really don't know.

saratogabrit · #64 09-17-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Don't the Euro horses fly charter? I really don't know.

No I meant racefans. The average number of British and Irish that attend Breeders' Cup is now about 8,000 and that figure would go above 10,000 with more fans from Asia etc.

Albany is over 150 miles from the nearest Domestic/International Hub. Some foreigners will hire cars in Boston or New York or take the train up from Penn Station but the bulk will have to change planes in New York etc and they'll all be trying to get on the same flights that racefans from the US and Canada are trying to get seats on.

Linny · #65 09-17-2007, 01:10 PM

Were the blessed event to occur, I thank God and Man o' War that I'd have to board nothing more exotic than my old jalopy in order to attend...assuming I could get seats.

SniperSB23 · #66 09-17-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saratogabrit

No I meant racefans. The average number of British and Irish that attend Breeders' Cup is now about 8,000 and that figure would go above 10,000 with more fans from Asia etc.

Albany is over 150 miles from the nearest Domestic/International Hub. Some foreigners will hire cars in Boston or New York or take the train up from Penn Station but the bulk will have to change planes in New York etc and they'll all be trying to get on the same flights that racefans from the US and Canada are trying to get seats on.

I'm sure Yankee Trails would work out a bunch of buses up from NYC to Saratoga for the BC. Plus the irony of a Yankee Trails bus full of Englishman would be delightful.

MisterB · #67 09-17-2007, 01:48 PM

We wouldn't go anyway, to cold. We like heaters and big screen tv's after Sept 3rd.

SentToStud · #68 09-17-2007, 02:01 PM

Why couldn't they just limit attendance at Saratoga? Really no big deal on the weather. Chance of bad weather can't be worse than Chicago or Toronto. There's no Gen Admission at Monmouth. What are they capping attendance at? I assume they capped attendence at Lone Star.

ARyan · #69 09-17-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterB

We wouldn't go anyway, to cold. We like heaters and big screen tv's after Sept 3rd.

I honestly hope that is a joke...

NTamm1215 · #70 09-17-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

Why couldn't they just limit attendance at Saratoga? Really no big deal on the weather. Chance of bad weather can't be worse than Chicago or Toronto. There's no Gen Admission at Monmouth. What are they capping attendance at? I assume they capped attendence at Lone Star.

As far as I know there is general admission at Monmouth for $50 but you have no seat. I could be wrong about that.

There was not an attendance cap at Lone Star, as the temporary seating expanded the overall capacity. Because of the location and the amenities available, it was not a popular destination for most people and so the attendance stayed so low.

The weather bug is always a tricky one, on BC day at Lone Star it started around 65 degrees but was in the mid-80s by the afternoon and that really drew the ire of out of town guests.

For those of you who were talking about out of town tellers also, I was a teller at Lone Star is 2004 and there were a bunch they trucked in from Gulfstream and other places. They paid them a flat rate and it was good.

For those of us who worked the full meet the daily pay was $500 for BC day.

NT

blackthroatedwind · #71 09-17-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie

It rarely reaches 90 degrees in Saratoga...maybe 2 days this Summer.

That's funny. God do I wish you were right....just this once.

Cajungator26 · #72 09-17-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bystander

Someone obviously needs to tell you to "be nice."

It was stinking hot this summer.

When I was up there, it just didn't feel that hot to me...

I live in Orlando, though... it's blasted hot here so anything below 90 feels like winter.

SentToStud · #73 09-17-2007, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

When I was up there, it just didn't feel that hot to me...

I live in Orlando, though... it's blasted hot here so anything below 90 feels like winter.

The lowest it has gotten here since mid-May is 77 degrees. Once the low hits 70 deg, you'll see the down jackets in Ft Lauderdale and the fur coats in Palm Beach.

Cajungator26 · #74 09-17-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

The lowest it has gotten here since mid-May is 77 degrees. Once the low hits 70 deg, you'll see the down jackets in Ft Lauderdale and the fur coats in Palm Beach.

It's kinda funny, though...

I actually like the cold weather. When I heard people complaining in Toga about how hot it was, I had to laugh. Florida feels a lot hotter to me, so it was a nice change up there for me.

boswd · #75 09-17-2007, 02:31 PM

If the Red Sox and MLB can hammer out the logistics of Fenway Park hosting the All-Star game. Then there is no reason The Breeders Cup comm. and NYRA can't figure out the logistics of Saratoga hosting the BC.

I'm not saying put it in the rotation but at least once, they can do it. There is no other track that deserves hosting more than Saratoga.

Ronnie · #76 09-17-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's funny. God do I wish you were right....just this once.

That's funny. God do I wish you weren't a prick...just this once.

MisterB · #77 09-17-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd

If the Red Sox and MLB can hammer out the logistics of Fenway Park hosting the All-Star game. Then there is no reason The Breeders Cup comm. and NYRA can't figure out the logistics of Saratoga hosting the BC.

I'm not saying put it in the rotation but at least once, they can do it. There is no other track that deserves hosting more than Saratoga.

For some reason, I hear the words

Never happen

SentToStud · #78 09-17-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It's kinda funny, though...

I actually like the cold weather. When I heard people complaining in Toga about how hot it was, I had to laugh. Florida feels a lot hotter to me, so it was a nice change up there for me.

I hear that. And, I won't wear my fur coat down here until it gets down to 65 degrees. I do have my standards.

fpsoxfan · #79 09-17-2007, 02:48 PM

I'd love to see the Breeders Cup in Saratoga. The logistics, the weather, and the lack of closed spaces are exactly the reasons why it doesn't happen.
Could many people brave a 50 degree day? Sure, but even 50 and sunny isn't always the case. That time of the year it could swing either way at least 20 degrees. Imagine 50,000 fans braving a 35-40 degree day? It's just too much of a risk to run it there. BOSWD, you know me, you, and many others could hack sitting out in the picnic area on a cool afternoon, but the majority of the people aren't going to want to do that. In regards to the weather this summer, I went to the track six times and five of those times it was at least 90 or better. Opening day and especially Whitney Day were quite warm and muggy. Drank a lot of beer. Good times.

saratogabrit · #80 09-17-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boswd

If the Red Sox and MLB can hammer out the logistics of Fenway Park hosting the All-Star game. Then there is no reason The Breeders Cup comm. and NYRA can't figure out the logistics of Saratoga hosting the BC.

I'm not saying put it in the rotation but at least once, they can do it. There is no other track that deserves hosting more than Saratoga.

My belief is that it is NYRA who would be at the top of the list of those who don't want Breeders' Cup to come to Saratoga.

What became more apparent in the past year was the affection that the local community in the Capital Region has for NYRA. That would be eroded if Breeders' Cup comes to town. Breeders' Cup takes over the show completely. $50 General Admission. Probably either not allowed to bring anything in or vastly limited. Concession prices ramped up 50-100%. The local community will feel completely frozen out and will blame NYRA.