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Old 09-12-2007, 05:58 PM
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Tiz Wonderful was vanned off
seriously? you arent joking, are you?

that just sucks. that horse should never have been brought back after his race against street sense. probably shouldnt have been brought back then either.

i only saw the race on youbet, were those front wraps?
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Old 09-12-2007, 05:59 PM
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Who would have seen that one coming?

i can think of 2 people that spring to mind.

oops, i read your post wrong. make that 'i can only think of 2 that couldn't'
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:06 PM
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seriously? you arent joking, are you?
It's on the chart.....

http://www.equibase.com/static/chart...091207USA8.pdf
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:10 PM
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A sentence from a bloodhorse article:

John Velazquez, who rode Tiz Wonderful, told Verderosa he felt “something pop” as he was galloping back to be unsaddled.
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:54 PM
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Tiz Wonderful vanned off according to Haskin.. Any updates?
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Old 09-12-2007, 06:55 PM
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Oh.. and is there something I should have moderated that I should know about? Pais was at the KEE sale the last few days so you kids are playing with moderate supervision.. Be good...

(And Nicole... Rooster attack? Tramplings? Puh-leeaze... that's nothing. Just remember what 'KYRIM' has been through...)
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:15 PM
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Oh.. and is there something I should have moderated that I should know about? Pais was at the KEE sale the last few days so you kids are playing with moderate supervision.. Be good...

(And Nicole... Rooster attack? Tramplings? Puh-leeaze... that's nothing. Just remember what 'KYRIM' has been through...)
did you enjoy the sales sessions?

as far as moderation is concerned, as long as nascar is not talked about, i'm happy!
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:16 PM
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This clip reminds me of KYRIM.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k2bGjY4XslY

*sheds tear*
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:17 PM
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Oh.. and is there something I should have moderated that I should know about? Pais was at the KEE sale the last few days so you kids are playing with moderate supervision.. Be good...

(And Nicole... Rooster attack? Tramplings? Puh-leeaze... that's nothing. Just remember what 'KYRIM' has been through...)
Man, I got this..
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:21 PM
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Oh.. and is there something I should have moderated that I should know about? Pais was at the KEE sale the last few days so you kids are playing with moderate supervision.. Be good...

(And Nicole... Rooster attack? Tramplings? Puh-leeaze... that's nothing. Just remember what 'KYRIM' has been through...)
we're on our best behavior....
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:23 PM
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we're on our best behavior....
Yeah right.
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Old 09-12-2007, 07:29 PM
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This clip reminds me of KYRIM.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=k2bGjY4XslY

*sheds tear*

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Old 09-12-2007, 07:53 PM
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The owners and trainers should be ashamed of themselves for Tiz Wonderfuls demise.
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:09 PM
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The owners and trainers should be ashamed of themselves for Tiz Wonderfuls demise.

that was pretty much what i was inferring in my original post.

by demise, do you mean that his demise as a racehorse, or that he ended up dying?
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:13 PM
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Just the constant beating he took as a racehorse. He was in a butchershop to begin with, hyped up, and really had nowhere to go but down.

I dont know if hes still with us, but I havent heard anything to the contrary. Hopefully hes not insured
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:16 PM
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I suppose in order to make an assertion that Tiz Wonderful's connections should be ashamed of themselves one has to assume that Steve Asmussen knowingly put Tiz Wonderful on the track when injured. I am no great Steve Asmussen fan, but is it possible to have that knowledge as just a racing fan?

I'd say no, especially given that Tiz Wonderful's supposed injury happened after the running of the More Than Ready today. We've gone over Tiz Wonderful's performance in the Jim Dandy, so there's no need doing that again. However, today he did not run a bad race at all. He lost to a horse who was definitely improving a bit more than I anticipated, but it's not like Tiz Wonderful disgraced himself.

I'm wondering how much the collective feelings on this board about the whole Tiz Wonderful situation has to do with Asmussen himself and his checkered past. While Asmussen's horrendous record in terms of drug positives and suspensions is indefensible, I just don't see how he can be blamed or should feel ashamed for the way he handled Tiz Wonderful.

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:18 PM
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I just don't see how he can be blamed or should feel ashamed for the way he handled Tiz Wonderful.

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i believe the term is called 'common sense'?

how is it that 90%, at a minimum, on this very board, was able to foresee something like this happening? we're all psychic?
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:28 PM
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no way am i surprised at this turn of events. as for assmussens 'past' i'd say it's his present as well. he finished serving his six month suspension earlier this year, not as tho it's ancient history.
as for Tiz W, he should have been brought back slowly, i thought this from the moment he made his comeback vs the top 3 yo colt in the country. what happened to taking it easy, to bringing a horse back a step at a time? we all know that it's a dicey proposition bringing a horse back from an injury, and that too often the horse isn't quite the same. so why the mad rush to put him right back in top company? what happened to building slowly, regaining confidence along with a fitness level and mental edge?? i wouldn't hire assmussen to housebreak a dog or litterbox train a cat. absolutely disgraceful!
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Old 09-12-2007, 08:29 PM
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i believe the term is called 'common sense'?

how is it that 90%, at a minimum, on this very board, was able to foresee something like this happening? we're all psychic?
you have a magic eight-ball too?!
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(And Nicole... Rooster attack? Tramplings? Puh-leeaze... that's nothing. Just remember what 'KYRIM' has been through...)
Hours and hours of watching the sales videos so she knew that Street Sense and Any Given Saturday were finished by their strides in the Tampa Bay Derby?

Thank goodness Dee-Tee didn't hire her as a consultant.
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