CALIFORNIAN: Buzzard's Bay Scores.. - Page 4

GPK · #61 06-02-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't agree. He has barely run a step in quite some time.

It is time to retire him....and at the very least to stop shipping him all around the country.

Be careful Andy...you are making way too much sense here...

hoovesupsideyourhead · #62 06-02-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I highly doubt any of the problems they have claimed after his poor efforts have been true. It's BS. He is too slow for the races he is running in.

Frankly, if every time he runs poorly he exits the race with a problem you should really wonder about his handling. Enough.

and funny cide gets a pass..lol agreed more a spotting problem

pdrift1 · #63 06-02-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I highly doubt any of the problems they have claimed after his poor efforts have been true. It's BS. He is too slow for the races he is running in.

Frankly, if every time he runs poorly he exits the race with a problem you should really wonder about his handling. Enough.

thats where you are completly wrong i was there when they scoped him after the bcc and heard it right from the vets mouth . so its not BS

philcski · #64 06-02-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pdrift1

i will be curious to see if something shows up otherwise it may be time to retire

Pdrift I think we all love your namesake and even if something shows up, it's time. He showed no interest today or at Keeneland and this is a gutsy horse. No shame in that, he's had a tremendous career. Had a few more head bobs gone his way he'd be on his way to the hall of fame.

pdrift1 · #65 06-02-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Pdrift I think we all love your namesake and even if something shows up, it's time. He showed no interest today or at Keeneland and this is a gutsy horse. No shame in that, he's had a tremendous career. Had a few more head bobs gone his way he'd be on his way to the hall of fame.

no i understand that . i said it may be time . but to say that they are making excuses when i heard it firsthand is just not true .

hoovesupsideyourhead · #66 06-02-2007, 08:59 PM

sorry i call it plodder...he is a million room also ran..and has been for a wile ..he did make a few bucks along the way but..his sire may have been called mediocrity...

miraja2 · #67 06-02-2007, 08:59 PM

Why is this horse so controversial? I just don't get it.
At ages 3 and 4 he was a very good horse. He won six graded stakes in those two years.
At age 5 and 6 he began to decline considerably. Although he still managed some good performances, (particularly the '05 BCC) and was consistently in the money he (not surprisingly) wasn't the same horse he was at ages 3 and 4. That is perfectly natural.
At age 7 and now at age 8 he has regressed further. He isn't the consistent G1/G2-caliber horse he once was.
Would ANYBODY disagree with any of the things I said there? If not, why are there so many arguments about this horse? I am not trying to be a smart-ass.....I really don't get it.

pdrift1 · #68 06-02-2007, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Why is this horse so controversial? I just don't get it.
At ages 3 and 4 he was a very good horse. He won six graded stakes in those two years.
At age 5 and 6 he began to decline considerably. Although he still managed some good performances, (particularly the '05 BCC) and was consistently in the money he (not surprisingly) wasn't the same horse he was at ages 3 and 4. That is perfectly natural.
At age 7 and now at age 8 he has regressed further. He isn't the consistent G1/G2-caliber horse he once was.
Would ANYBODY disagree with any of the things I said there? If not, why are there so many arguments about this horse? I am not trying to be a smart-ass.....I really don't get it.

i would agree

philcski · #69 06-02-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Why is this horse so controversial? I just don't get it.
At ages 3 and 4 he was a very good horse. He won six graded stakes in those two years.
At age 5 and 6 he began to decline considerably. Although he still managed some good performances, (particularly the '05 BCC) and was consistently in the money he (not surprisingly) wasn't the same horse he was at ages 3 and 4. That is perfectly natural.
At age 7 and now at age 8 he has regressed further. He isn't the consistent G1/G2-caliber horse he once was.
Would ANYBODY disagree with any of the things I said there? If not, why are there so many arguments about this horse? I am not trying to be a smart-ass.....I really don't get it.

I wouldn't.

Cajungator26 · #70 06-04-2007, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

The horse can no longer support Murray Johnson, retire him before he gets hurt.

Agreed. He's done his fair share... it's only fair to the horse to retire him and let him get started onto something else.

Buffymommy · #71 06-04-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Agreed. He's done his fair share... it's only fair to the horse to retire him and let him get started onto something else.

Just in case any of his connections are reading this...

I would give him a wonderful home.

Lots and lots of treaties. I can give references...

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #72 06-04-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

Just in case any of his connections are reading this...

I would give him a wonderful home.

Lots and lots of treaties. I can give references...

when he is done buffy im sure hell go where he has every winter which is to his owners home which i believe is in KS. this last weekend truly broke my heart

Buffymommy · #73 06-04-2007, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

when he is done buffy im sure hell go where he has every winter which is to his owners home which i believe is in KS. this last weekend truly broke my heart

I was more or less being sarcastic. I just love the old boy. Heck, he isn't considered old in my book. For racing? Maybe, but in the hunter world, he would be just coming into his own.