Time Squared, can he upset the bluegrass ?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

ok.....I think he can win because........


like scav said on another thread his race last friday he was in hand the whole trip, he went from last to first and did it easily.

This years three year old crop has not standouts, there are alot of very good horses but no great ones, and i know alot of ppl think the big 2 are in this race but i really do think this race could be ripe for a upset. Street Sense just barley beats Any Given Saturday, and then AGS comes back and runs horrible in the wood, Street Sense also has never won on the poly, as for Great Hunter he beats Sam P last time, but Sam p was getting to him late Sam P is the beaten favorite in the Santa Anita Derby where he is defeated by a maiden winner in Tiago.

Also the big 2 have bigger fish to fry there main goals are winning the Kentucky Derby, not running huge in the bluegrass 3 weeks out and having nothing left for kentucky, on the other hand Time Squared has to run 1-2 to even make it to the derby, which has to be the goal considering they are running him here to try and get the graded earnings.

You hang in there PG.

In fairness, I've seen a lot less sound reasoning for taking a stand against what's going to be a short priced favorite and a fairly short second favorite.

Whether PG is landing on the right one to take a shot with is another question.

But at least he shows some imagination looking at the race and throwing conventional wisdom out. That's how you should handicap.

According to everyone posting here, PG is the only person in the world who bet Discreet Cat. If Street Sense gets beat, no one here will admit to betting or singling him either.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

According to everyone posting here, PG is the only person in the world who bet Discreet Cat. If Street Sense gets beat, no one here will admit to betting or singling him either.

I won't have bet either.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

According to everyone posting here, PG is the only person in the world who bet Discreet Cat. If Street Sense gets beat, no one here will admit to betting or singling him either.

Only one person on this thread mentioned mentioned Discreet Cat.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Only one person on this thread mentioned mentioned Discreet Cat.

the person who mentioned it is a fool it had nothing to do with me liking this horse.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I won't have bet either.

Like you, I didn't/won't bet Discreet Cat or Street Sense. Then again, I didn't bet Tiago either, much less thought he had a solid shot.

To me, PG posting he likes a horse for whatever reason is FAR more interesting than the Johnny Pinwheels of the world coming on to boast after the race that Discreet Cat was a throwout and that people that liked him are good for his pocketbook.

I suppose Johnny and his crew also singled DC in his wins and scored big there as well.

Anyone posting about who is crying for attention or is otherwise defective should look away from the PGs of the board and toward the fools who never offer an opinion much less a reason for their opinion before the race is run, claim a losing favorite was a lousy chalk thirty minutes after the race and, of course, how they changed their life hitting a $13 Exacta as a result.

Really, any one of the above three alone are grounds for a good beating. Johnny, of course, manages to do all three. Very poorly.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Only one person on this thread mentioned mentioned Discreet Cat.

C'mon AJim, nobody else used the horse? About 50% of the Exacta pool included him. Hell, someone bet the horse.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

C'mon AJim, nobody else used the horse? About 50% of the Exacta pool included him. Hell, someone bet the horse.

Why are you asking about who had the exacta with Discreet Cat?
what does that have to do with anything on this thread? like I said one person brought up Discreet Cat. I thought this thread was about the chances of Time Squared this weekend.

Of course Discreet Cat was hammered by many. Not me however!

For the record I don't know how I'll play the Bluegrass yet, need to do more study. I do know TS won't be on top of any of my tickets.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Like you, I didn't/won't bet Discreet Cat or Street Sense. Then again, I didn't bet Tiago either, much less thought he had a solid shot.

To me, PG posting he likes a horse for whatever reason is FAR more interesting than the Johnny Pinwheels of the world coming on to boast after the race that Discreet Cat was a throwout and that people that liked him are good for his pocketbook.

I suppose Johnny and his crew also singled DC in his wins and scored big there as well.

Anyone posting about who is crying for attention or is otherwise defective should look away from the PGs of the board and toward the fools who never offer an opinion much less a reason for their opinion before the race is run, claim a losing favorite was a lousy chalk thirty minutes after the race and, of course, how they changed their life hitting a $13 Exacta as a result.

Really, any one of the above three alone are grounds for a good beating. Johnny, of course, manages to do all three. Very poorly.

Thank you and i really appreciate you defending me.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Like you, I didn't/won't bet Discreet Cat or Street Sense. Then again, I didn't bet Tiago either, much less thought he had a solid shot.

To me, PG posting he likes a horse for whatever reason is FAR more interesting than the Johnny Pinwheels of the world coming on to boast after the race that Discreet Cat was a throwout and that people that liked him are good for his pocketbook.

I suppose Johnny and his crew also singled DC in his wins and scored big there as well.

Anyone posting about who is crying for attention or is otherwise defective should look away from the PGs of the board and toward the fools who never offer an opinion much less a reason for their opinion before the race is run, claim a losing favorite was a lousy chalk thirty minutes after the race and, of course, how they changed their life hitting a $13 Exacta as a result.

Really, any one of the above three alone are grounds for a good beating. Johnny, of course, manages to do all three. Very poorly.

no you miss the point. the only reason i got on his back was because he said it was the biggest bet of his life. sure alot of folks liked that horse, but not many smart people hammered him was all i said. no the 13 dollar exacta did not change my life but it was there for the taking. both horses made their preps and won, invasor did so miraculuosly at gulfstream. discreet cay missed his (why?) and hadn't run in months, one stakes race in a year. i was just trying to explain why i think the kid makes bad BETTING decisions
not belittling his horse. for one thing i never bet big unless my horse is 5-2 or more , so don't think i'm some chalk eater. why do you think i bet the exacta. i know this thread is about time squared but i was pointing out one of his great bets . its not the only time hes come on here and said i got crushed or i lost it all or something to that effect. common do you really think time squared has any legit shot in this race? i know stranger things have happened ,its gambling. but as one poster already mentioned don't make your picks like throwing sh1t at the wall and hope they stick. that what i think he does at times and then comes on here crying about how much he got killed over the weekend. by the way buddy i said DC was a play against long before the race. go look it up , i also predicted the exacta straight up. you can't get over the fact that the horse was NOT ready to win. under dubai world cup selections,hicory hill, i posted 3-31 at 9:37 am. before i went to the track. so don't accuse me of bsing with picks after the race like some of the fools do here. plus if i did why would i brag about a 13 dollar exacta you idiot .

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

no you miss the point. the only reason i got on his back was because he said it was the biggest bet of his life. sure alot of folks liked that horse, but not many smart people hammered him was all i said. no the 13 dollar exacta did not change my life but it was there for the taking. both horses made their preps and won, invasor did so miraculuosly at gulfstream. discreet cay missed his (why?) and hadn't run in months, one stakes race in a year. i was just trying to explain why i think the kid makes bad BETTING decisions
not belittling his horse. for one thing i never bet big unless my horse is 5-2 or more , so don't think i'm some chalk eater. why do you think i bet the exacta. i know this thread is about time squared but i was pointing out one of his great bets . its not the only time hes come on here and said i got crushed or i lost it all or something to that effect. common do you really think time squared has any legit shot in this race? i know stranger things have happened ,its gambling. but as one poster already mentioned don't make your picks like throwing sh1t at the wall and hope they stick. that what i think he does at times and then comes on here crying about how much he got killed over the weekend. by the way buddy i said DC was a play against long before the race. go look it up , i also predicted the exacta straight up. you can't get over the fact that the horse was NOT ready to win. under dubai world cup selections,hicory hill, i posted 3-31 at 9:37 am. before i went to the track. so don't accuse me of bsing with picks after the race like some of the fools do here. plus if i did why would i brag about a 13 dollar exacta you idiot .

DUDE YOUR REAL CLASSY... you come out of no where and attack me with a bunch of bullshit that had NOTHING to do with the actual thread and now you call him a idiot, who are you ? all you did was jump on me because of what you saw other posters doing, your the classic follower.... you follow what other ppl do, at least i post my picks, and when i lose i defend them and stand up for my picks. to me you are as low as it gets at this place, you attack me out of no where on something from a month ago then you call another guy a idiot.

[Cajungator26]

To answer the original question posed on this thread...

No, I don't think Time Squared can upset the Blue Grass. Good day.

[Cannon Shell]

I am rooting for a Time Squared, Love Dubai, Tueflesburg triple

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am rooting for a Time Squared, Love Dubai, Tueflesburg triple

well...good luck with that! certainly would pay well.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am rooting for a Time Squared, Love Dubai, Tueflesburg triple

easy on Love Dubai please...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

To answer the original question posed on this thread...

No, I don't think Time Squared can upset the Blue Grass. Good day.

oh, we're FINALLY voting?? lol

i do think he CAN--as in anything can happen. but i don't think time squared will upset it.

[JDank34]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am rooting for a Time Squared, Love Dubai, Tueflesburg triple

I'm with Chuck....and I will parlay all of the tri winnings back on Olympic Chief in the Hot Springs Darbe!!!

[miraja2]

Time Squared's Beyer figs go like this:
86-78-75-67.
He is not exactly moving in the right direction, and even if he reverts back to his debut # he would still be well short of the top horses in this field. His worst figure (the 67) was also his only race on poly. I just don't think he makes sense here at all.
If you think the top 2 are vulnerable (personally I am not convinced of this), why not go with Dominican? He is two-for-two on the poly and his race in the Rushaway was a very professional poly score. He wasn't facing any world-beaters that day to be sure, but it was a field of 10 that he defeated easily with a solid 95 Beyer. His race that day was far more impressive than anything TS has ever done. Clearly he won't be 50/1 or whatever TS goes off at, but given the quality of Great Hunter and Street Sense, he might be a decent price......and he MIGHT actually have a chance!

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Time Squared's Beyer figs go like this:
86-78-75-67.
He is not exactly moving in the right direction, and even if he reverts back to his debut # he would still be well short of the top horses in this field. His worst figure (the 67) was also his only race on poly. I just don't think he makes sense here at all.
If you think the top 2 are vulnerable (personally I am not convinced of this), why not go with Dominican? He is two-for-two on the poly and his race in the Rushaway was a very professional poly score. He wasn't facing any world-beaters that day to be sure, but it was a field of 10 that he defeated easily with a solid 95 Beyer. His race that day was far more impressive than anything TS has ever done. Clearly he won't be 50/1 or whatever TS goes off at, but given the quality of Great Hunter and Street Sense, he might be a decent price......and he MIGHT actually have a chance!

listen i dident say i was unloading on the race or anything like that im going to do something like 15wps on him nothing huge, and use him in the pick 4 just in case, dominican did look very very good, but im not using him in any bet, pick 4 or anything

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

listen i dident say i was unloading on the race or anything like that im going to do something like 15wps on him nothing huge, and use him in the pick 4 just in case, dominican did look very very good, but im not using him in any bet, pick 4 or anything

I guess the confusing thing for us is that you say that you think GH and SS are two of the best three 3yos running right now, and that Dominican looked "very very good," and yet you are actually going to place a win bet on TS. It seems odd.
But hey, it is your money not ours, and if you still want to make those wagers on him after we tried to tell you why we think it is a bad idea, go ahead.
Let's put this thread to rest now. We have all spent WAY too much time analyzing a horse of this caliber.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

well id like to say i was way off with time squared, i did not bet him big i bet $15 wp on him and had him in the national pick 4 with street sense so im dead there also