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![]() Way too early still. As I watch it again, when JV took a look back around the final turn into the stretch, the horse kinda of said "what am I supposed to do?" for a moment... I really cant take much out of this at all upon review. Running on the beach sand... and the 2nd place horse had a big ground saving trip on a track that leaders held well on today, early races at least. But I was not expecting to see the horse to run completely away from the others anyway based on what I have seen from him. Expectations before a race play a big role in how one views the race.
But I do think its true the horse is rated highly because of Pletcher and not his accomplishments. The Southwest should be much more interesting. |
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![]() i really dont see anything wrong at all with the horses performance today. the horse did it pretty easy and wasnt fully extended and thats notta bad thing this time of year when youre on the trail. the horse has proven himself@3 different tracks now and has already showed churchill isnt gonna be a problem for him if he makes it. hes a half length from being undefeated and theres no shame in losing to the lone horse who has defeated him. i think the harshness on him is unwarranted at this point
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The only legit knock on his performance I see is that he simply didn't run very fast. |
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I don't think it's " harshness " at all. It's just a reasonably honest evaluation of TODAY'S race. I don't think anyone suggested he couldn't ( and shouldn't ) improve.....it's really just as DrugS said......he didn't run very fast. Even in a first start he probably should have run a little faster for a horse who is getting so much hype. More it's just a slight cause for pause. |
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![]() I don't understand how anyone can say that this horse doesn't have heart after the way he battled with Tiz Wonderful, who would probably be one of the top three derby contenders at this point if he hadn't gotten hurt. I agree that his race today wasn't exactly incredible, but he did pretty much everything that was asked of him. I was looking forward to seeing AGS run again to try and get a better feel for his talent level, but unfortunately, I think his race today was inconclusive.
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Coming to the wire, his ears were pricked and he was looking around. He got squeezed a bit and ate some dirt early on. It was a good education that took nothing out of him. The biggest plus, in my handicapping mind, is when the Tampa Bay Derby comes up, and the challengers ship in from So. Fla., he will have a distinct advantage because he now has a trip over the surface. |
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![]() How good is Distorted Humor? That's all.
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The fact that his ears were twitching doesn't do much for me, I can't read too much into that. |
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Remember Sun King's uninspiring prep race at Tampa, he wasn't a factor in the Derby, he's turned out to be a nice horse, I'll give him a pass here... |
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Besides, I believe the current discussion here is focused on the derby and not to say that the horse can't develop to be a nice one down the road. |
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I don't think it was all that bad or good, coming off of a layoff on a quirky track...He'll get another chance... |
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![]() I thought Sun King's win in the Tampa Derby was totally awful.
As a 1/20 favorite, against a VERY soft field at level weight, he got to dilly dally on the lead through soft fractions, some soon to be claimer named Forever Wild took a pretty good run at him on the far turn, before SK shrugged him off and won by 3 in unimpressive time. His figure that day shouldn't be that much more than what AGS will get. SK had a pretty nice comeback race at a one-turn mile one start prior. Tampa's always been a funny track. If anyone remembers last year, a pair of horses (Seek Gold and Take D' Tour) who got soundly beaten at the '06 Tampa meet---both won Grade 1 races on the same day...just a few months later. |
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The winner is still the better horse of the two, by about 8 lengths or more, at any distance. Trip, and all the circumstancial stuff is what brought those two horses so close together. |
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I missed your post before the race. I would love to see it.....which thread was it in? |
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![]() Didn't post it. Don't live on the net. Just thought to myself as I looked at the DRF race of week stuff that the horses they were picking for second and third didn't look as good for the distance as this one. Good, solid state-bred family. I do that sort of thing, being a pedigree geek, not a betting fiend. Was confused, thinking it was a Public Handicapper race so was checking it out.
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You don't live on the net? Good to know. I hope you have a warm and safe home. You did however have the same time AFTER the race to let us know about how you felt about the results that you could just have easily have spent BEFORE the race. Just imagine how much more insightful it might have seemed then. One can only dream now. |
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Perhaps that's all part of Pletcher's plan for him...Who knows? ![]() |
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![]() Well, he got a 95 Beyer number, so I guess I must have underrated his performance.
I really on disliked him because DrugS is so high on him. |