Barbaro The Topic of Larry King Tonight

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I bet those PETA ladies are a lot of fun. Just don't eat a hamburger around them if you are looking for some loving.

My shallowness is highly adaptable.

[reese]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

By the way, a little trivia, how is Anderson Cooper and horse racing connected?

Andersen Cooper - son of Gloria Vanderbilt and Wyatt Cooper.
Gloria Vanderbilt was the only child of Reginald Vanderbilt and Gloria Morgan.
After her father died, Gloria's mother squandered her inheritance and Gloria's aunt, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney, became Gloria Vanderbilt's guardian and keeper of her "trust fund".


Gertrude Vanderbilt had married Harry Payne Whitney.

"Harry Payne Whitney was a major figure in thoroughbred horse racing. He owned a large stable and horse breeding farm where he developed the American polo pony by breeding American Quarter Horse stallions with his thoroughbred mares. He was thoroughbred racing's leading owner of the year in the United States on eight occasions and the breeder of almost two hundred stakes race winners. His Kentucky-bred horse Whisk Broom II raced in England then at age six came back to the U.S. where he won the New York Handicap Triple Crown, Whitney had nineteen horses who ran in the Kentucky Derby, winning it the first time in 1915 with Regret, the first filly ever to capture the race. Regret went on to earn Horse of the Year honors and was named to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame". Wikepedia

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I thought she was pretty cute.....but I also had the mute one.

I thought it was funny they trotted out likely their most attractive member... most of their yahoos are hairy earthy hippies

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by reese

Andersen Cooper - son of Gloria Vanderbilt and Wyatt Cooper.
Gloria Vanderbilt was the only child of Reginald Vanderbilt and Gloria Morgan.
After her father died, Gloria's mother squandered her inheritance and Gloria's aunt, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney, became Gloria Vanderbilt's guardian and keeper of her "trust fund".


Gertrude Vanderbilt had married Harry Payne Whitney.

"Harry Payne Whitney was a major figure in thoroughbred horse racing. He owned a large stable and horse breeding farm where he developed the American polo pony by breeding American Quarter Horse stallions with his thoroughbred mares. He was thoroughbred racing's leading owner of the year in the United States on eight occasions and the breeder of almost two hundred stakes race winners. His Kentucky-bred horse Whisk Broom II raced in England then at age six came back to the U.S. where he won the New York Handicap Triple Crown, Whitney had nineteen horses who ran in the Kentucky Derby, winning it the first time in 1915 with Regret, the first filly ever to capture the race. Regret went on to earn Horse of the Year honors and was named to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame". Wikepedia

Bought time. Yep, he's a Whitney....It is also well known among the people in town in Saratoga that Anderson is gay. Not that it matters, but it isn't talked about much elsewhere.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by reese

Andersen Cooper - son of Gloria Vanderbilt and Wyatt Cooper.
Gloria Vanderbilt was the only child of Reginald Vanderbilt and Gloria Morgan.
After her father died, Gloria's mother squandered her inheritance and Gloria's aunt, Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney, became Gloria Vanderbilt's guardian and keeper of her "trust fund".


Gertrude Vanderbilt had married Harry Payne Whitney.

"Harry Payne Whitney was a major figure in thoroughbred horse racing. He owned a large stable and horse breeding farm where he developed the American polo pony by breeding American Quarter Horse stallions with his thoroughbred mares. He was thoroughbred racing's leading owner of the year in the United States on eight occasions and the breeder of almost two hundred stakes race winners. His Kentucky-bred horse Whisk Broom II raced in England then at age six came back to the U.S. where he won the New York Handicap Triple Crown, Whitney had nineteen horses who ran in the Kentucky Derby, winning it the first time in 1915 with Regret, the first filly ever to capture the race. Regret went on to earn Horse of the Year honors and was named to the National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame". Wikepedia

Holy smart right here Randall, keep this person around

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by philcski

I thought it was funny they trotted out likely their most attractive member... most of their yahoos are hairy earthy hippies

I don't know about that. I'd call it 50/50. They have some talent in there.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I thought she was pretty cute.....but I also had the mute one.

she's too old for you...

the unfortunate part is that she is more well spoken than Bo Derek (the whipping...some horses need more than others ) and more well versed in the subject than Jack Hannah (who, lets face it has never been to a bottom level track and seen THOSE horses)...
therefore, regardless of her message she makes a better impression and more of an impact than the other two...

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

she's too old for you...

the unfortunate part is that she is more well spoken than Bo Derek (the whipping...some horses need more than others ) and more well versed in the subject than Jack Hannah (who, lets face it has never been to a bottom level track and seen THOSE horses)...
therefore, regardless of her message she makes a better impression and more of an impact than the other two...

Excellent point on Bo Derek. I was laughing when she was talking about how they needed whipping. And that it didn't hurt.....

[GenuineRisk]

Man, after reading this thread I wish I'd seen the program- Larry King usually makes me vomit a little bit in my mouth, but this sounds like it was a hoot.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Man, after reading this thread I wish I'd seen the program- Larry King usually makes me vomit a little bit in my mouth, but this sounds like it was a hoot.

No Risk.... You would be screaming at the TV like I was... Stupid ***** broad... she doesn't know ****.... who the **** let her on there.... put up a phone number so I can call in and smack that ***** into place! lol

Yeah it was extremely fustrating to me..

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Samm

No Risk.... You would be screaming at the TV like I was... Stupid ***** broad... she doesn't know ****.... who the **** let her on there.... put up a phone number so I can call in and smack that ***** into place! lol

Yeah it was extremely fustrating to me..

Yep, me too...

When she started to roll her eyes when Jack and Bo were talking, it was all down hill from there.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Samm

No Risk.... You would be screaming at the TV like I was... Stupid ***** broad... she doesn't know ****.... who the **** let her on there.... put up a phone number so I can call in and smack that ***** into place! lol

Yeah it was extremely fustrating to me..

What I wonder is how lazy can these TV people be? Is it so hard to get someone from a Thoroughbred Retirement Fund or whatever if they want someone to talk about the difficulties of racing?

Of course, "Jack Hanna, Bo Derek and a crazy lady from PETA" sounds more interesting to the average viewer than "Some trainer you never heard of, some person you never heard of who finds racehorses retirement homes and a crazy lady from PETA."

Every time someone from PETA gets on one of these programs I feel like the movement for humane treatment for animals gets set back at least another five years.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

What I wonder is how lazy can these TV people be? Is it so hard to get someone from a Thoroughbred Retirement Fund or whatever if they want someone to talk about the difficulties of racing?

Of course, "Jack Hanna, Bo Derek and a crazy lady from PETA" sounds more interesting to the average viewer than "Some trainer you never heard of, some person you never heard of who finds racehorses retirement homes and a crazy lady from PETA."

Every time someone from PETA gets on one of these programs I feel like the movement for humane treatment for animals gets set back at least another five years.

Didn't see the show so I'll talk generally....as a PETA member myself, I don't think it's fair to lump folks together. Some folks are very aggressive and often times ill-informed...on both sides of this issue. I joined PETA and remain a member because they do in fact do a lot of good things...facing down corporate giants like KFC for instance...those folks need to answer for the abuses they allow. Obviously, I don't support banning racing, but I do fully support every effort to make life better for the horses...sometimes, being goofy and outrageous is the only way to get a message across..we were ridiculed in the Civil Rights movement too! PETA has more than it's share of "nut jobs", but the work they do is necessary and usually...thankless! PETA isn't the problem, human greed and lack of compassion is! If everyone treated their animals like the connections of Barbaro do, there would be no need for PETA. The vast majority of folks in racing are good, caring, compassionate folks...but we all need to be reminded that there are still far too many of the other kind!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Didn't see the show so I'll talk generally....as a PETA member myself, I don't think it's fair to lump folks together. Some folks are very aggressive and often times ill-informed...on both sides of this issue. I joined PETA and remain a member because they do in fact do a lot of good things...facing down corporate giants like KFC for instance...those folks need to answer for the abuses they allow. Obviously, I don't support banning racing, but I do fully support every effort to make life better for the horses...sometimes, being goofy and outrageous is the only way to get a message across..we were ridiculed in the Civil Rights movement too! PETA has more than it's share of "nut jobs", but the work they do is necessary and usually...thankless! PETA isn't the problem, human greed and lack of compassion is! If everyone treated their animals like the connections of Barbaro do, there would be no need for PETA. The vast majority of folks in racing are good, caring, compassionate folks...but we all need to be reminded that there are still far too many of the other kind!

Excellent post, John... I couldn't agree more.

[Cannon Shell]

I thought that Bo Derek sounded like she was your crazy old aunt that dropped too much acid in the 60's, the Zoo guy had pretty much no clue about anything and the Peta lady came across as arrogant and elistist, which is how PETA people almost always sound. Though I did think she was pretty hot.

I would sum the whole show up by saying that if you have any intellegence at all you will learn to take the newsmedia with a grain of salt most of the time. Because it was painfully clear that these 4 people including Larry have very little understanding or expertise with the issues. So next time you are watching Larry King or some other talking head cover a subject you dont have any knowledge about remember that the 'facts' and opinions that are being given may be just as ill-informed and biased as those given last night.

[randallscott35]

Mrs. Jackson also looked like she was nearly asleep during the interview. I couldn't tell if her eyes were open even when she was talking.

[The Bid]

Cannon, what did you think about the title "Barbaro put to death"

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Boy this peta really has an agenda. Larry should have never had this broad on this show, I would like to slap that lady

I emailed the show to ask the Peta bitch about the dead dogs in the dumpsters they found, dumped by Peta! Hypocritical fanatics!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Cannon, what did you think about the title "Barbaro put to death"

Sensationalism, pure and simple. Believe me if they had footage of the injection putting him to sleep they would have shown it.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I emailed the show to ask the Peta bitch about the dead dogs in the dumpsters they found, dumped by Peta! Hypocritical fanatics!

Again....don't fall into the trap of judging folks by using incidents like that! The current head of PETA does in fact walk a narrow line due to her past but again...the sad fact is that at times, the need overwhelms our ability to help...too many dogs to care for leads to tough choices, do you sacrifice some or reduce care for many? Not as black and white as the media makes it...just like how they present the racing industry...beware of that trap! If you call everyone a hypocrite who belongs to PETA because the organization isn't perfect, then you have to call anyone who is a Democrat a racist cause some of the leaders were/are, all Republicans must be rich and non-caring, all Christians must drink the Kool-Ade. Zealots exist on both sides of this (and every) issue...I recall all the character assasination attempts on DR King...never use the only-human weaknesses of the messenger to discredit the message...!