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Old 04-12-2015, 05:46 PM
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Firing Line no longer the track record holder at SUN. NM-bred Proceed breaks it by .02 in the Sunland Park Handicap.
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Old 04-12-2015, 06:46 PM
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Firing Line no longer the track record holder at SUN. NM-bred Proceed breaks it by .02 in the Sunland Park Handicap.
In fairness, that horse is not your typical Nm bred type of horse.
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Old 04-12-2015, 07:18 PM
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5/2/15 (CD): Kentucky Derby (10f)

1. International Star (Maker/Mena)
2. Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
3. Carpe Diem (Pletcher/Velazquez)
4. American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza)
5. Frosted (McLaighlin/Rosario)
6. Mubtaahij (de Kock/Soumillon)
7. Materiality (Pletcher/Castellano-?)
8. El Kabeir (Terranova/Lopez)
9. Upstart (Violette/J. Ortiz)
10. Far Right (Moquett/Smith)

11. Itsaknockout (Pletcher/Saez)
12. Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
13. Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
14. War Story (Amoss/Talamo)
15. Tencendur (Weaver/TBA)
16. One Lucky Dane (Baffert/Bejarano)
17. Stanford (Pletcher/Geroux)
18. Mr. Z (Lukas/Vasquez)
19. Ocho Ocho Ocho (Cassidy/S. Gonzalez) **
20. Bolo (Gaines/Smith) **
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21. Madefromlucky (Pletcher)
22. Keen Ice (Romans)
23. Frammento (Zito)
24. Bold Conquest (Asmussen)
25. The Truth or Else (McPeek)
26. Metaboss (Bonde)
27. Firespike

As of now my big three are Dortmund, American Pharoah and Upstart. Ill probably cover Frosted in a back up kind of way.
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Old 04-12-2015, 07:59 PM
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As of now my big three are Dortmund, American Pharoah and Upstart. Ill probably cover Frosted in a back up kind of way.
Everyone knows you are keying carpe diem with the Bafferts.
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Old 04-12-2015, 08:06 PM
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Everyone knows you are keying carpe diem with the Bafferts.
At this point Carpe Diem is slow.
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Old 04-13-2015, 05:55 AM
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Kentucky Oaks

1. Condo Commando (Rodriguez)
2. I’m a Chatterbox (Jones)
3. Stellar Wind (Sadler)
4. Birdatthewire (Romans)
5. Lovely Maria (Jones)
6. Include Betty (Proctor)
7. Oceanwave (Catalano)
8. Angela Renee (Pletcher)
9. Sarah Sis (Mason)
-- Maybellene -- Possible (Baffert)
10. Eskenformoney (Pletcher)
11. Puca (Mott)
12. Shook Up (Asmussen)
-- Luminance -- Possible (Baffert)
13. Forever Unbridled (Stewart)
14. Achiever’s Legacy (Hollendorfer)
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15. Money'soncharlotte (Breen)
16. Danessa Deluxe (Navarro)
17. Callback (Baffert)
18. Wonder Gal (Gyarmati)
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:38 AM
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My key horse in Derby Day verticals and horizontals will be One Lucky Dane.
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Old 04-13-2015, 06:21 PM
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May have a different trainer for the KY Derby? days coming?
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:32 AM
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May have a different trainer for the KY Derby? days coming?
If you are referring to the fight in Indiana, no. Amoss will continue to battle Gorajec and the Commission.
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:26 AM
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5/9/15 (BEL): Peter Pan

Madefromlucky (Pletcher)
Two Weeks Off (Pletcher)
Stanford (Pletcher)


5/16/15 (PIM): Preakness Stakes

American Pharoah (Baffert/V. Espinoza)
Firing Line (S. Callaghan/Stevens)
Dortmund (Baffert/M. Garcia)
International Star (Maker/Mena)
Divining Rod (Delacour)

Danzig Moon (Casse/Leparoux)
Materiality (Pletcher)
Carpe Diem (Pletcher)
Competitive Edge (Pletcher)
Bodhisattva (Corrales)



6/6/15 (BEL): Belmont Stakes

Keen Ice (Romans)
Mubtaahij (de Kock)
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:14 AM
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Materiality (Pletcher)
Two Weeks Off (Pletcher)
I hope at least one of these two runs.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:19 AM
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I hope at least one of these two runs.
I would love to see Materiality run back, with a clean trip he is a huge threat in the Preakness.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:21 AM
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I would love to see Materiality run back, with a clean trip he is a huge threat in the Preakness.
He'd be on all my tickets. I think TWO has a lot of potential too.
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Old 05-04-2015, 11:54 AM
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I think Stanford plays a huge role in the Preakness if he goes. No way he even comes close to winning but changes everything from a pace projection. Two weeks off is very interesting
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Old 05-11-2015, 09:57 PM
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The field is getting easier for AP again and again. What next, a match race: American Pharoah and Tale of Verve. And the easier it gets the more he saves for Big Sandy.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:03 PM
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The field is getting easier for AP again and again. What next, a match race: American Pharoah and Tale of Verve. And the easier it gets the more he saves for Big Sandy.
How so? Firing Line and Dortmund should be strong contenders too.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:13 PM
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How so? Firing Line and Dortmund should be strong contenders too.
Ya think so? "Should" is right. But can they win? Depends on who came out of the Derby the best. Any gleaming reports on the big 3. I can't keep up since I have a real job in my real life. Speed favoring, AP controls the pace or right on it, he wins again.
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Old 05-11-2015, 11:23 PM
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Ya think so? "Should" is right. But can they win? Depends on who came out of the Derby the best. Any gleaming reports on the big 3. I can't keep up since I have a real job in my real life. Speed favoring, AP controls the pace or right on it, he wins again.
Probably AP wins if the three of them lead from the beginning. Hopefully one of the other entrants outside these three will set the pace.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:38 AM
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Materiality is not running in Preakness. Will target Belmont. Looks like Belmont going to have a pretty large field of quality horses.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:25 AM
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Default Materiality won't be in the Preakness either

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