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Old 10-13-2006, 01:17 PM
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If Bernardini is to run all out he will shatter Secretariat's record, its just a damn shame he wont be able to break the record for 12f
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You need help, but we already knew that. He hasn't even come close to shattering records. But YOU KNOW that he will. Should we base this on your vast pp's as a great handicapper on messageboards?
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:18 PM
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So George...how long did you live there? I ask cause I did, not visit and stay in a hotel and see what folks wanted me to see...live among the people???? If you've done that then one of us must be delusional at best cause I don't remember it that way!!!
I did not live there. I have been there 4 times. Once for 2 weeks and the other 3 times for 1 week.

I think it is hilarious how you people attack them, but you have no problem going out and buying goods, like your sneakers, made from slave labor, if it saves you a dollar. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

You people complain about human rights but you look the other way when it is your money.

Here is a question for you, why do you gamble on horse racing knowing much of the labor in the business live in terrible living conditions and are paid poorly? If they made the takeout 50% and used the additional takeout to pay workers more and give them better wages, would you complain?

How about when building your new homes. A $200,000 home would cost you $300,000 if the labor was paid market value, but you have no problem with cheap labor when it benefits you.

Please don't tell me you don't buy goods made by slave labor. Everyone does. How about your food? Do you buy exclusively higher priced free range foods or do you look the other way knowing the way chickens are treated?

Lastly, you gamble on horse racing, but do you know what happens to many of these horses?

Why don't we stick to horse racing and stop criticizing people that act much like we all do. The hypocrisy stinks here.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:18 PM
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Threads on Sheiks, Bernardini retiring and Polytrack = more mind numbing than watching the NLCS
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:19 PM
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When you met the owners did you bow and say your highness?
And yeah...I've not only met them, I've met them in a slightly different capacity than I suspect you have!
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:20 PM
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I did not live there. I have been there 4 times. Once for 2 weeks and the other 3 times for 1 week.

I think it is hilarious how you people attack them, but you have no problem going out and buying goods, like your sneakers, made from slave labor, if it saves you a dollar. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

You people complain about human rights but you look the other way when it is your money.

Here is a question for you, why do you gamble on horse racing knowing much of the labor in the business live in terrible living conditions and are paid poorly? If they made the takeout 50% and used the additional takeout to pay workers more and give them better wages, would you complain?

How about when building your new homes. A $200,000 home would cost you $300,000 if the labor was paid market value, but you have no problem with cheap labor when it benefits you.

Please don't tell me you don't buy goods made by slave labor. Everyone does. How about your food? Do you buy exclusively higher priced free range foods or do you look the other way knowing the way chickens are treated?

Lastly, you gamble on horse racing, but do you know what happens to many of these horses?

Why don't we stick to horse racing and stop criticizing people that act much like we all do. The hypocrisy stinks here.

How about the camel jockeys scandal right now. Any words of wisdom on how we should think about that mess?
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:20 PM
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And yeah...I've not only met them, I've met them in a slightly different capacity than I suspect you have!
Somer that post wasn't aimed at you.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:22 PM
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Spoken like somebody who has never been to Dubai. Don't talk about something that you know little about. You sound ignorant. Dubai is not Saudi Arabia. I have been there numerous times and it is not anything like you are trying to make it out to be.

You are basically disguising your racist comments, in a polite way. To say somebody does not have a soul is disgusting. Have you ever met the owners? Let me guess, probably not.

I'll talk about Sheikh Mo whenever I want. Seeing as how you like to order people around I have no doubts you've been to Dubai and have meet the sheikhs.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:23 PM
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When you met the owners did you bow and say your highness?
Never met them. What is the difference between calling them your highness and somebody calling the President, Mr. President?

I laugh how people act like there is no class structure in America. In fact, the american class structure is worse than anywhere in the world.

I guess George Washington, the founder of our country, having slaves was ok. How about Thomas Jefferson?

How many countries have slave owners that are on their money or have cities named after them?

I don't knock other cultures and people because I understand that is their culture.

Last I checked Americans complain about $3 a gallon gas, and are willing to deal with dictators as long as it means their gas will go down to $2.

Enough with the comments about these people. It is nothing but racism.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:25 PM
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Never met them. What is the difference between calling them your highness and somebody calling the President, Mr. President?

I laugh how people act like there is no class structure in America. In fact, the american class structure is worse than anywhere in the world.

I guess George Washington, the founder of our country, having slaves was ok. How about Thomas Jefferson?

How many countries have slave owners that are on their money or have cities named after them?

I don't knock other cultures and people because I understand that is their culture.

Last I checked Americans complain about $3 a gallon gas, and are willing to deal with dictators as long as it means their gas will go down to $2.

Enough with the comments about these people. It is nothing but racism.

So you can talk down to people who you don't feel are "important enough" by your social or monetary standards, but noone else can speak ill about anyone who isnt white or its racism? Thats not logical.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:25 PM
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I'll talk about Sheikh Mo whenever I want. Seeing as how you like to order people around I have no doubts you've been to Dubai and have meet the sheikhs.
I have never met the Sheikhs.


I am going to guess you listen to Rush Limbaugh and complain when gas prices get too high.

I love you people that like to complain about their culture, but then when it comes to knocking down the price of your gas you can look the other way. Spare me the hypocrisy.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:26 PM
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Never met them. What is the difference between calling them your highness and somebody calling the President, Mr. President?

I laugh how people act like there is no class structure in America. In fact, the american class structure is worse than anywhere in the world.

I guess George Washington, the founder of our country, having slaves was ok. How about Thomas Jefferson?

How many countries have slave owners that are on their money or have cities named after them?

I don't knock other cultures and people because I understand that is their culture.

Last I checked Americans complain about $3 a gallon gas, and are willing to deal with dictators as long as it means their gas will go down to $2.

Enough with the comments about these people. It is nothing but racism.
Comparing George Washington to Sheikh Mohammed is laughable. You have to go back to the eighteenth century to justify Sheikh Mohammed's actions.

LMAO.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:27 PM
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I have never met the Sheikhs.


I am going to guess you listen to Rush Limbaugh and complain when gas prices get too high.

I love you people that like to complain about their culture, but then when it comes to knocking down the price of your gas you can look the other way. Spare me the hypocrisy.
I bet you watch Queer as Folk and have posters of Rosie O'Donnell throughout your home.

Let the broad generalisations begin. I can spit fire at you all day, chump.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:28 PM
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I bet you watch Queer as Folk and have posters of Rosie O'Donnell throughout your home.

Let the broad generalisations begin. I can spit fire at you all day, chump.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:29 PM
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So you can talk down to people who you don't feel are "important enough" by your social or monetary standards, but noone else can speak ill about anyone who isnt white or its racism? Thats not logical.

I don't talk down to anybody. The comments were attacks on the owners of these horses because of the way the act in Dubai. I was just pointing out that you might want to look in the mirror before criticizing anyone.

You take their gas, and I am sure if one wanted to buy a horse from you, you would have no problem selling him one if you could make a dollar.

I am a realist, I know how things work. People throw darts at people like the family that owns these horses, but have no problem with it if they can benefit from it. That is the way people are.

I just think horse racing should stick with horse racing, and politics should stay out of these threads. The comments attacking them were not mine, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:31 PM
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I bet you watch Queer as Folk and have posters of Rosie O'Donnell throughout your home.

Let the broad generalisations begin. I can spit fire at you all day, chump.

Typical hypocrit. Avoid your own hypocrisy and go on the attack. Right out of the Republican playbook. And that is coming from somebody who contributed to the President when Farish came looking for money.

Enough of this. The horse racing conversation obviously has lost out to the hypocrits.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:32 PM
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I don't talk down to anybody. The comments were attacks on the owners of these horses because of the way the act in Dubai. I was just pointing out that you might want to look in the mirror before criticizing anyone.

You take their gas, and I am sure if one wanted to buy a horse from you, you would have no problem selling him one if you could make a dollar.

I am a realist, I know how things work. People throw darts at people like the family that owns these horses, but have no problem with it if they can benefit from it. That is the way people are.

I just think horse racing should stick with horse racing, and politics should stay out of these threads. The comments attacking them were not mine, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy.
Just like they accept the kindness that we offer by not bombing them back to the stone age and just taking their oil. Who'd stop us? I think we are real nice folks over here.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:33 PM
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Typical hypocrit. Avoid your own hypocrisy and go on the attack. Right out of the Republican playbook. And that is coming from somebody who contributed to the President when Farish came looking for money.

Enough of this. The horse racing conversation obviously has lost out to the hypocrits.
Um you attacked me, idiot. And it's hypocritE and I fail to see how i'm a hypocrite since I don't enslave people.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:33 PM
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Typical hypocrit. Avoid your own hypocrisy and go on the attack. Right out of the Republican playbook. And that is coming from somebody who contributed to the President when Farish came looking for money.

Enough of this. The horse racing conversation obviously has lost out to the hypocrits.

When Farish came looking for money???????????
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:37 PM
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I don't talk down to anybody. The comments were attacks on the owners of these horses because of the way the act in Dubai. I was just pointing out that you might want to look in the mirror before criticizing anyone.

You take their gas, and I am sure if one wanted to buy a horse from you, you would have no problem selling him one if you could make a dollar.

I am a realist, I know how things work. People throw darts at people like the family that owns these horses, but have no problem with it if they can benefit from it. That is the way people are.

I just think horse racing should stick with horse racing, and politics should stay out of these threads. The comments attacking them were not mine, I was just pointing out the hypocrisy.
Oil accounts for only a small percentage of Dubai's GDP. Find another liberal talking point.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:38 PM
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Why do people care if they retire Bernardini or not. If you say it is selfish of them to retire the horse then aren't you being selfish for wanting the horse to race??? All of our stars are retired too early in my opinion. Smarty, Alex, Point Given, Ghostzapper etc etc. I know some had injuries, but with time off they could have come back to race. With the exceptions of Smarty and Alex, most of our stars are owned by people with big bucks so money isn't a problem but it is a factor when retiring a horse.

What I like to think is that most owners take the money they earned and put it back into the industry by buying more horses. I certainly think that the Sheikh puts just as much money into the sport than he takes out. So I have no problem with him when it comes to racing. What I don't like is that a couple of outfits have raised the price for horses and certain people are unable to compete. But this is part of life.

I would rather see the offspring of Bernardini run than Bernardini himself. Imagine the next 10 years of little Dini's running around. I am sure that he will be able to produce a couple of nice off-spring.

Good luck to Dini in the BCC. He deserves to be there and I hope he wins. He seems to be a fantastic horse and I hope we really get to see the horse all out on Nov 4th regardless of the margin of victory or defeat.
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