Doubt They Run at SA.. UPDATE: Charles says synthetic out..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Could the synthetic out be also in hopes of becoming the permanent spot of the Breeder's Cup?

Fine with me.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Could the synthetic out be also in hopes of becoming the permanent spot of the Breeder's Cup?

I hope not. The Breeders Cup needs to move to differant tracks for the everyday fan to have a chance to experiance it live. Just my thought.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by SlewsMyHero

Hopefully "the Bykster" will be able to get Ron Charles or Hammerle on ATR this evening to talk about it. I'll be listening to the archives later tonight.

Ron Charles came on at 5:15pm.

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[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Did you ever consider that if they rebuilt a dirt surface are installed propper drainage, created a world class base, and maintained it correctly that it could be as safe and as well received by the industry?

thats too smart! they want that "all weather" surface...wait a minute its raining we got to close down....lol. yeah, this is way safer...lol....lol

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Could the synthetic out be also in hopes of becoming the permanent spot of the Breeder's Cup?

yes

[Riot]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

thats too smart! they want that "all weather" surface...wait a minute its raining we got to close down....lol. yeah, this is way safer...lol....lol

Isn't the rain in California like 20 inches this week in some areas, monsoons, mudslides, etc? Would they be racing if it were a dirt track?

[LARHAGE]

I doubt they'd be running on dirt right now, it isn't even just the heavy rain, it's the strong winds as well, I so far have had my garage door blown out, it looks like the Hulk tried to run through it, and I had a large pine tree blown over, and the biggest storm is supposed to be Thursday. It's horrible out here right now.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I doubt they'd be running on dirt right now, it isn't even just the heavy rain, it's the strong winds as well, I so far have had my garage door blown out, it looks like the Hulk tried to run through it, and I had a large pine tree blown over, and the biggest storm is supposed to be Thursday. It's horrible out here right now.

Hang in there its better then wild fires..I think?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I doubt they'd be running on dirt right now, it isn't even just the heavy rain, it's the strong winds as well, I so far have had my garage door blown out, it looks like the Hulk tried to run through it, and I had a large pine tree blown over, and the biggest storm is supposed to be Thursday. It's horrible out here right now.

Nasty. Good luck, hope it doesn't get too much worse for you.

[hockey2315]

I'm not a poly lover by any stretch (although I do think it's more profitable betting wise than dirt right now), but I wonder how this will impact racing in CA. . . Haven't all the trainers adopted new/different methods for racing on this third surface? Haven't owners been looking at horses who might prefer synth/turf? I'm glad they're switching back, but I wonder how the horse people feel after getting jerked back and forth. . . It's not like the Cali racing product could get any worse.

[the_fat_man]

If this is the case, it's fine with me. I don't play much S Cal poly. Of all the AW tracks I play, DMR, HOL, and SA play more like (BIASED) dirt than all the others. In fact, HOL and SA play more like the AQU inner track. This allows the trainers out there to switch distances with success. It's just not 'normal' for horses to stretch out and not only win but handle horses that have been routing. This happens all the time at AQU inner and it happens more than I'd want on the S Cal poly. It certainly doesn't happen, EVER, at WO, or TP, AP, and even GG or PID. Trainers cetainly change distances with horses at these tracks, but they stretch out, for example, to prepare for a cutback. These are AW tracks that offer an edge to anyone who understands how to play this type of surface. All this unnatural BS is what got me away from dirt in the 1st place.

It's no secret that GG is the place to play out there anyway.

[tomm5647]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Arlington Park has a nice cross-section of their track make up on display. It was pretty cool, though I may have been the only one that ever looked at it.

Include me as another who looked at the display. AP is my home track and I think that their poly track has been a big success. Breakdowns did spike a little last year but I don't think anyone was blaming the track. The drainage system is incredible. The track stays fast in spite of most conditions and even heavy thunderstorms drain off quickly and evenly. I haven't found any magic formula to handicap on the surface but it's been said here and I believe it to be true. If a horse doesn't run well on it the first few times, he will probably never run good on it. Wait for Hawthorne.
Tom

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I'm not a poly lover by any stretch (although I do think it's more profitable betting wise than dirt right now), but I wonder how this will impact racing in CA. . . Haven't all the trainers adopted new/different methods for racing on this third surface? Haven't owners been looking at horses who might prefer synth/turf? I'm glad they're switching back, but I wonder how the horse people feel after getting jerked back and forth. . . It's not like the Cali racing product could get any worse.

Glad you mentioned that Hock - what happens to all the Cal Breds on the farm and in the belly - What is Unusual Heat going to to? It's mighty cold in Ontario - but they have TRAKUS

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

If this is the case, it's fine with me. I don't play much S Cal poly. Of all the AW tracks I play, DMR, HOL, and SA play more like (BIASED) dirt than all the others. In fact, HOL and SA play more like the AQU inner track. This allows the trainers out there to switch distances with success. It's just not 'normal' for horses to stretch out and not only win but handle horses that have been routing. This happens all the time at AQU inner and it happens more than I'd want on the S Cal poly. It certainly doesn't happen, EVER, at WO, or TP, AP, and even GG or PID. Trainers cetainly change distances with horses at these tracks, but they stretch out, for example, to prepare for a cutback. These are AW tracks that offer an edge to anyone who understands how to play this type of surface. All this unnatural BS is what got me away from dirt in the 1st place.

It's no secret that GG is the place to play out there anyway.

Is there a NA or AA meeting in Brooklyn??

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Is there a NA or AA meeting in Brooklyn??

I'm sure there are dozens daily but what were you really asking?

[Thoroughbred Fan]

If dirt track supers had a choice, they would love to have unlimited staff to make a dirt track great. Constant dragging, raking, and constant divot replacing/top dress replacing; that would correct all. No.

The correct choice is a mix of both, but not by state. The correct mix would be based on climate, not by delegate.

If they use the right judgment, synthetic can only help the northern states. Why So Cal uses it, I'll never know.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

SA just cancelled for Thursday.

That 7 race card they had scheduled ... with mostly all small fields .. it will be missed.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

SA just cancelled for Thursday.

That 7 race card they had scheduled ... with mostly all small fields .. it will be missed.

They should be running 3 days a week anyway with the few dozen horses they have.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I thought fewer horses was a good thing?

Less horses = less injuries = less work for the horse ambulance =

[Honu]

Hey I was wondering if anyone could help me find articles saying how wonderfull and great the dirt surface was . Thanks in advance.