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Old 05-02-2009, 08:30 AM
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Ya guess I'll just move on over to Atomic Rain or Join in the Dance
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:31 AM
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Back to the drawing board. My question is how does this affect the pick three (oaks, wood and derby) tickets

Post time favorite for you and alot of others in the Derby....
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:31 AM
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it doesn't for me. i was trying to reconcile myself to those guys in the winners circle again this year. that combined with mullins--ugh.
now, we don't have to worry about that.
I don't like Mullins. I don't particularly care for the connections. But I really, really like the horse.

I felt extremely comfortable with him on top of my tickets. Now I'm back to the drawing board.

Damn, time for another cup of coffee and a smoke.......
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:32 AM
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I wouldn't hesistate to bet I Want Revenge, Quality Road, The Pampelmousse, Rachel Alexandra or Old Fashioned had they been the only of the five to show up.

It's now like a who's who lineup of horses whom I don't think are the five best chances to win this race from this crop ... and with an off track and confusing pace scenario as well.

If you look at Moss pace figures - six furlongs is the pace call for me in a 10f race - and on Moss number Dunkirk has the outright best last out fig at the pace call both LAST TIME OUT and TWO STARTS BACK!!

My pace numbers don't have Dunkirk with a double fig on the field .. but I have him about as fast as anyone for 6fs as well.

Obviously there are no pace figs for Regal Ransom - and he's probably faster.

I realize Dunkirk won't be on the lead after six furlongs no matter what everyone's pace numbers say ... but it goes to show you how messed up the pace picture is - as well as the race is.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:33 AM
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I know a lot of people don't like him but you have to feel bad for Talamo
Joe's real likable and will get many other chances, still to bad.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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Fun times!
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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I wouldn't hesistate to bet I Want Revenge, Quality Road, The Pampelmousse, Rachel Alexandra or Old Fashioned had they been the only of the five to show up.

It's now like a who's who lineup of horses whom I don't think are the five best chances to win this race from this crop ... and with an off track and confusing pace scenario as well.

If you look at Moss pace figures - six furlongs is the pace call for me in a 10f race - and on Moss number Dunkirk has the outright best last out fig at the pace call both LAST TIME and TWO STARTS BACK!!

My pace numbers don't have Dunkirk with a double fig on the field .. but I have him about as fast as anyone for 6fs as well.

Obviously there are no pace figs for Regal Ransom - and he's probably faster.

I realize Dunkirk won't be on the lead after six furlongs no matter what everyone's pace numbers say ... but it goes to show you how messed up the pace picture is as well as the race.
so, now who's your pick?
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:35 AM
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I think Atomic Rain has a chance to hit the board if the track is sloppy. Call me crazy.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:36 AM
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This is the worst derby ever
I guess you never saw Goto Del Slow"s Kentucky Derby.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:36 AM
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I don't like Mullins. I don't particularly care for the connections. But I really, really like the horse.

I felt extremely comfortable with him on top of my tickets. Now I'm back to the drawing board.

Damn, time for another cup of coffee and a smoke.......
your post pretty much is where i'm at, other than having a smoke. i thought i want revenge was the best one coming in, but just chose not to think about his human connections.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:37 AM
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I think Atomic Rain has a chance to hit the board if the track is sloppy. Call me crazy.
I think he is a better horse than WSB. Will run okay.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:38 AM
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so, now who's your pick?
Dunkirk is who I picked 2nd...

But I don't really trust him.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:41 AM
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Dunkirk is who I picked 2nd...

But I don't really trust him.

me neither. his trainer doesn't exactly give you a reason to pick him either.
i think if i was at the track, i'd be throwing money at desert party.

seriously, i'd have to sit down and rethink the entire race-but since i'm not able to bet, i'm just going to sit back and watch. it's not worth the effort.

horses drop out every year, but this is the worst in my memory regarding the calibre of horses that have scratched.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:43 AM
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I think Atomic Rain has a chance to hit the board if the track is sloppy. Call me crazy.

OK Coach - but I still like you YOU ARE CRAZY
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:43 AM
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The Racing Gods won't let me get my money

I work all day and don't get paid , Gimmie MY MOney! like my man archie shepp says

pamplemousse- no shot at superfecta would have been less than 10-1

quality road - would not have won and less than 7-1

IWR - would not have won and been a co-favorite

Friesan Fire - my choice for months , all the so called expert clowns underestimating him, now everyone picks him
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:45 AM
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Uh oh, I hope Beyer has a contingency plan. I do feel bad for Talamo though.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:46 AM
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Uh oh, I hope Beyer has a contingency plan. I do feel bad for Talamo though.
I feel a lot worse for Beyer.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:46 AM
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The Racing Gods won't let me get my money

I work all day and don't get paid , Gimmie MY MOney! like my man archie shepp says

pamplemousse- no shot at superfecta would have been less than 10-1

quality road - would not have won and less than 7-1

IWR - would not have won and been a co-favorite

Friesan Fire - my choice for months , all the so called expert clowns underestimating him, now everyone picks him
It's so easy to say this when they are not running.
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:51 AM
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Was IWR the only vet scratch? All the others made it thru right
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:52 AM
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Friesan Fire - my choice for months ,
Obviously - it seems like every little thing has gone FF's way over the last three weeks ... a ton of speed is gone, sloppy track, he won the post position draw - post 6 with five slowpokes to your inside on a track where the rail was good yesterday is a DREAM.

And Rachel Alexandra .. who I thought was more impressing running the same track and distance on the day of FF's clear cut best lifetime race ... she put on a total exhibition yesterday that really makes it look even more like it's no shame to be slightly less impressive than her at your best.

I'm still betting against him ... and don't trust FF .. but he looks WAY more attractive now.
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