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I don't think Fawkes or Queen will get Derby Fever. |
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i don't think dunkirk runs again before the derby.
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![]() Providing DUNKIRK came out in good shape I think Pletcher and Tabor will change their mind and run one more time before the Derby. It was the way they ran second that might change their mind. In their minds considering the track they probably thought they ran best yesterday in a losing effort. Looking ahead they'll get not only the distance of the Derby in their favor but rabbits like THE PAMPLEMOUSSE, OLD FASHIONED and etc if the races play to form.
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![]() your welcome, DUNKIRK most likely could be out of the earnings picture in the next two weeks, I'll think of some more.
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![]() Red means they aren't going (IMO)
1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000 2 Square Eddie $774,981 3 Pioneerof the Nile $743,250 4 Desert Party $641,667 5 Quality Road $600,000 6 Friesan Fire $570,465 7 Rachel Alexandra $413,001 8 Terrain $410,830 9 Old Fashioned $330,000 10 I Want Revenge $324,000 11 Hold Me Back $288,000 12 West Side Bernie $235,160 13 Chocolate Candy $220,000 14 Bittel Road $211,000 15 Musket Man $200,000 16 Capt. Candyman Can $186,945 17 The Pamplemousse $180,000 17 Win Willy $180,000 19 Papa Clem $160,000 20 Charitable Man $150,000 20 Dunkirk $150,000 22 Mine That Bird $138,705 23 Theregoesjojo $133,063 24 Beethoven $132,494 25 General Quarters $130,645 26 Flying Private $94,000 27 El Crespo $90,000 27 Flying Pegasus $90,000 30 Giant Oak $74,256 31 Join in the Dance $67,500 32 Hello Broadway $63,860 33 Imperial Council $50,000 34 Proceed Bee $47,000 35 Feisty Suances $40,000 35 Massone $40,000 35 Sumo $40,000 35 Take the Points $40,000 39 Stately Character $37,500 40 Bear's Rocket $36,000 42 Justdontcallmejeri $30,000 42 Poltergeist $30,000 44 Nowhere to Hide $27,000 45 Buzzin and Dreamin $25,000 46 Jeranimo $24,000 46 Mr. Hot Stuff $24,000 46 Rendezvous $24,000 49 Parade Clown $23,500 50 Bee Cee Cee $20,000 50 Patena $20,000 52 Captain Cherokee $15,000 53 Flat Out $12,500 53 Masala $12,500 55 He's Really Big $12,000 56 Kelly Leak $9,000 Last edited by Scav : 03-30-2009 at 08:42 AM. |
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![]() I'm really expecting Stardom Bound to be entered and scratched by IEAH, if for no other reason than to try and keep Dunkirk out if he's still on the bubble come entry time.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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If horses like Old Fashioned, POTN, Papa Chem, Grapefruit, Freisan Fire, and Terrian run well, Dunkirk is in, but if they don't then he is screwed |
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O'Neill has said he's training Eddie for the Derby. McLaughlin said that with a good effort in the Blue Grass, Charitable Man WILL go. Looking at the list, the one's with a legit chance of moving up include Imperial Council, Take the Points, Join in the Dance and possibly Flying Pegasus. They wont need to win their last preps either. Wood $750k 1st $450k, 2nd $150k Sa Derby Same Blue Grass Same Ill Derby $500k 1st $300k 2nd $100k That's alot of money out there for horses that have some graded earnings already looking to leap frog over a few that are not running back. Even the Lexington for $325k meaning the winner gets $195k and 2nd gets $$65k.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() I doubt that by Derby time Dunkirk will be on the cusp as he is now. Unless he's #21 (or 20 if Mufaaz goes) entering and scratching Stardom Bound won't help.
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![]() Kentucky Derby Graded Earnings for Major Contenders (through 03/31/09)
1 Regal Ransom bin Suroor, Saeed $1,250,000 2 Square Eddie O'Neill, Doug $774,981 3 Pioneerof the Nile Baffert, Bob $743,250 4 Desert Party bin Suroor, Saeed $641,667 5 Quality Road Jerkens, James $600,000 6 Friesan Fire Jones, J. Larry $570,465 7 Terrain Stall, Albert $410,830 8 Old Fashioned Jones, J. Larry $330,000 9 I Want Revenge Mullins, Jeff $324,000 10 Hold Me Back Mott, Bill $288,000 11 West Side Bernie Breen, Kelly $235,160 12 Chocolate Candy Hollendorfer, Jerry $220,000 13 Bittel Road Pletcher, Todd $211,000 14 Musket Man Ryan, Derek $200,000 15 Crowded House (GB) Meehan, Brian $195,020 16 The Pamplemousse Canani, Julio $180,000 17 Win Willy Robertson, McLean $180,000 18 Papa Clem Stute, Gary $160,000 19 Charitable Man McGlaughlin, Kiaran $150,000 20 Dunkirk Pletcher, Todd $150,000 21 Mine That Bird Woolley, Bennie $138,705 22 Theregoesjojo McPeek, Ken $133,063 23 General Quarters McCarthy, Tom $130,645 24 Munnings Pletcher, Todd $105,000 25 Flying Private Lukas, D. Wayne $94,000 26 Cribnote Violette, Rick $90,000 27 Flying Pegasus Nicks, Ralph $90,000 28 Join in the Dance Pletcher, Todd $67,500 29 Imperial Council McGaughey, Shug $50,000 30 Procede Bee Gestes, Terry $47,000 31 Atomic Rain Breen, Kelly $40,000 32 Take the Points Pletcher, Todd $40,000 33 Feisty Suances Vienna, Darrell $40,000 34 Bear's Rocket Baker, Reade $36,000 35 Poltergeist VonHemel, Donnie K. $30,000 36 Lime Rickey Alexander, Frank $30,000 37 Uno Mas Asmussen, Steve $28,000 38 Gone Astray McGaughey, Shug $27,500 39 Nowhere to Hide Zito, Nick $27,000 40 Rendezvous Hollendorfer, Jerry $24,000 41 Jeranimo Pender, Michael $24,000 42 Parade Clown Ball, Katherine $23,500 43 Patena Dutrow, Rick $20,000 44 Soul Warrior Asmussen, Steve $18,000 45 Ventana Baffert, Bob $16,600 46 Captain Cherokee Asmussen, Steve $15,000 47 Brave Victory Zito, Nick $14,833 48 Al Khali Pletcher, Todd $0 49 Mayor Marv Baffert, Bob $0 50 Omniscient Asmussen, Steve $0
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() This should be the updated list after today's races...
1 Regal Ransom bin Suroor, Saeed $1,250,000 2 Pioneer of the Nile Baffert, Bob $1,193,250 3 Square Eddie O'Neill, Doug $774,981 4 I Want Revenge Mullins, Jeff $774,000 5 Desert Party bin Suroor, Saeed $641,667 6 Quality Road Jerkens, James $600,000 7 Friesan Fire Jones, J. Larry $570,465 8 Musket Man Ryan, Derek $485,000 9 Terrain Stall, Albert $410,830 10 West Side Bernie Breen, Kelly $385,160 11 Chocolate Candy Hollendorfer, Jerry $370,000 12 Old Fashioned Jones, J. Larry $330,000 13 Hold Me Back Mott, Bill $288,000 14 Bittel Road Pletcher, Todd $211,000 15 Crowded House (GB) Meehan, Brian $195,020 16 The Pamplemousse Canani, Julio $180,000 17 Win Willy Robertson, McLean $180,000 18 Papa Clem Stute, Gary $160,000 19 Charitable Man McGlaughlin, Kiaran $150,000 20 Dunkirk Pletcher, Todd $150,000 21 Mine That Bird Woolley, Bennie $138,705 22 Theregoesjojo McPeek, Ken $133,063 23 General Quarters McCarthy, Tom $130,645 24 Munnings Pletcher, Todd $105,000 25 Flying Private Lukas, D. Wayne $94,000 26 Cribnote Violette, Rick $90,000 27 Flying Pegasus Nicks, Ralph $90,000 28 Mr. Hot Stuff Harty, Eoin $90,000 29 Imperial Council McGaughey, Shug $75,500 30 Atomic Rain Breen, Kelly $75,500 31 Join in the Dance Pletcher, Todd $67,500 32 Procede Bee Gestes, Terry $47,000 33 Take the Points Pletcher, Todd $85,000 34 Feisty Suances Vienna, Darrell $40,000 35 Bear's Rocket Baker, Reade $36,000 36 Poltergeist VonHemel, Donnie K. $30,000 37 Lime Rickey Alexander, Frank $30,000 38 Uno Mas Asmussen, Steve $28,000 39 Gone Astray McGaughey, Shug $27,500 40 Nowhere to Hide Zito, Nick $27,000 41Rendezvous Hollendorfer, Jerry $24,000 42 Jeranimo Pender, Michael $24,000 43 Parade Clown Ball, Katherine $23,500 44 Patena Dutrow, Rick $20,000 45 Soul Warrior Asmussen, Steve $18,000 46 Ventana Baffert, Bob $16,600 47 Captain Cherokee Asmussen, Steve $15,000 48 Brave Victory Zito, Nick $14,833 |
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got 2nd.... Jeez, he probably passed Dunkirk. Atomic Rain and Imperial Council also. No. Prize money dwindles thank god. 32 Atomic Rain $77,500 William L. S. Landes III, Laura Landes & Sarah Landes (KY) Kelly Breen George and Lori Hall 34 Imperial Council $72,500 G. Watts Humphrey Jr. (KY) Shug McGaughey Sequoia Racing 5th, Wood Memorial Last edited by pgardn : 04-05-2009 at 10:53 AM. |
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![]() 1 Regal Ransom $1,250,000
2 Pioneerof the Nile $1,193,250 3 Square Eddie $774,981 4 Desert Party $641,667 5 I Want Revenge $774,000 6 Quality Road $600,000 7 Friesan Fire $570,465 8 Musket Man $485,000 9 Terrain $410,830 10 West Side Bernie $385,160 11 Chocolate Candy $370,000 12 Old Fashioned $330,000 13 Hold Me Back $288,000 14 Bittel Road $211,000 15 Justwhistledixie (f) $210,000 (14) 16 Win Willy $180,000 (15) 17 Giant Oak $169,256 (16) 18 Papa Clem $160,000 (XX) Maafaz (KDKC) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 19 Charitable Man $150,000 (17) 19 Dunkirk $150,000 22 Mine That Bird $138,705 (18) 23 Theregoesjojo $133,063 24 Beethoven $132,494 (19) 25 General Quarters $130,645 (20) 26 Mr. Hot Stuff $114,000 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 27 Stormalory $112,838 28 Flying Private $94,000 29 El Crespo $90,000 29 Flying Pegasus $90,000 31 Take the Points $85,000 32 Atomic Rain $77,500 33 Just A Coincidence $75,000 34 Imperial Council $72,500 35 Join in the Dance $67,500 36 Hello Broadway $63,860 37 Nowhere to Hide $55,500 38 Feisty Suances $55,000 39 Proceed Bee $47,000 40 Massone $40,000 40 Sumo $40,000 42 Stately Character $37,500 43 Bear's Rocket $36,000 44 Justdontcallmejeri $30,000 44 Poltergeist $30,000 46 Buzzin and Dreamin $25,000 47 Jeranimo $24,000 47 Rendezvous $24,000 49 Parade Clown $23,500 50 Bee Cee Cee $20,000 50 Patena $20,000 52 Captain Cherokee $15,000 53 Flat Out $12,500 53 Masala $12,500 55 He's Really Big $12,000 56 Kelly Leak $9,000
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. Last edited by Kasept : 04-05-2009 at 03:29 PM. |
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![]() What would happen if two were tied at #20?
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