The Trail - Page 3

Sightseek · #41 03-24-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The nice guy I am ... I stop my Jazil bashing for a full month ... and you re-pay me with this?

um, kissy?

Really, you liked Rock Hard Ten?

The Indomitable DrugS · #42 03-24-2009, 09:40 PM

what's not to like?

Jason Orman could stop the Patriots.

The Indomitable DrugS · #43 03-24-2009, 09:49 PM

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/rockhardten.pdf

SniperSB23 · #44 03-24-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/rockhardten.pdf

Was that intended to help or hurt your case?

Sightseek · #45 03-24-2009, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/rockhardten.pdf

I don't think he would have even beat Flower Alley had he made it to the Classic.

Scav · #46 03-24-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Was that intended to help or hurt your case?

How doesn't it help his case? Look what Mandella did with that horse.....

SniperSB23 · #47 03-24-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

How doesn't it help his case? Look what Mandella did with that horse.....

Can you honestly say that through their 4yo seasons he was any faster than this guy?

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/funnycide.pdf

Scav · #48 03-24-2009, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Can you honestly say that through their 4yo seasons he was any faster than this guy?

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/funnycide.pdf

Where did Drugs bring Funny Cide into this equation?

SniperSB23 · #49 03-24-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Where did Drugs bring Funny Cide into this equation?

I'm not disagreeing he moved the horse up, I just don't think the horse was that good and am surprised Drugs liked him.

PPerfectfan · #50 03-24-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I live in the south honey!

Well dang, darlin, that just makes the statement worse. I happen to think there are some pretty good people down here!

PPerfectfan · #51 03-24-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I was going to add that in my earlier post that certainly being from Louisiana qualified me as being a moron or an idiot.......but I knew, I knew someone out there would make that affirmation. So if you would excuse me, I have to go because my dog is ouside humping my pet gator. Then I need to get to my GED class because Im hoping to pass that this year since Im 39 years old. I would be the first in my family to achieve such a great plateau at such a young age.

Man, you got a pet gator?? We can only 'ford one to pull the boat to take us to town...dang u must me from the good side of the swamp. I's got me a pet coon, and my ma dun got her a fancy ole pet cur dog. What u gonna do wit all that fancy edumacation? Ma said all that fancy edumacation just makes ya act all high and mighty and thank u no thangs u dont know.....I'm just saying

Indian Charlie · #52 03-24-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'm not disagreeing he moved the horse up, I just don't think the horse was that good and am surprised Drugs liked him.

He's had an irrational love of RHT since the day he debuted. I never understood it either and it's best to just humor him.

ateamstupid · #53 03-25-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan

Well dang, darlin, that just makes the statement worse. I happen to think there are some pretty good people down here!

For the record I was just busting chops before.

The Indomitable DrugS · #54 03-25-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Was that intended to help or hurt your case?

It was intended to show that he was not some bigtime overrated horse.

He did survive Orman's handling of him and go undefeated in four Graded Stake races ranging from distances of 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs before retiring with an injury.

In those four races, he beat name horses like Saint Liam, Lava Man, Borrego, Choctaw Nation, Roman Ruler, Imperialisim etc.

He had enough raw speed to win sprinting on debut with a 101 Beyer - he won a Grade 1 sprinting against the grain and off the layoff at SA. He certainly had stamina as well.

Probably would have been an awfully good synthetic track horse with the big time turf pedigree he had ... excellent turf sire & dam was a champ in Europe.

Plus, he was one of about 74 different horses where Gary Stevens publicly said "this is the best horse I ever rode."

Sightseek · #55 03-25-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It was intended to show that he was not some bigtime overrated horse.

He did survive Orman's handling of him and go undefeated in four Graded Stake races ranging from distances of 7 furlongs to 10 furlongs before retiring with an injury.

In those four races, he beat name horses like Saint Liam, Lava Man, Borrego, Choctaw Nation, Roman Ruler, Imperialisim etc.

He had enough raw speed to win sprinting on debut with a 101 Beyer - he won a Grade 1 sprinting against the grain and off the layoff at SA. He certainly had stamina as well.

Probably would have been an awfully good synthetic track horse with the big time turf pedigree he had ... excellent turf sire & dam was a champ in Europe.

Plus, he was one of about 74 different horses where Gary Stevens publicly said "this is the best horse I ever rode."

You forgot the part where he lost to My Snookie's Boy....badly.

The Indomitable DrugS · #56 03-25-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

I don't think he would have even beat Flower Alley had he made it to the Classic.

Perhaps.

He wasn't a very good shipper. Big horse, with a big attitude, who always held up the start.

Though, he only shipped in his races for Orman and not Mandella. So there could be something to that.

If you judge him strictly on his California form and disregard his 3 long trips East ... he's a pretty solid and consistant horse.

NTamm1215 · #57 03-25-2009, 08:32 AM

When speaking of horses who won GI races from 7 to 10 furlongs, I think Congaree is largely forgotten. His game also traveled, but when he threw in a bad one, it sure was ugly.

NT

slotdirt · #58 03-25-2009, 08:36 AM

A lot of people had an irrational fascination with Rock Hard Ten back in 2005; I don't DrugSy was alone in that regard. Why the hate for Rock Hard Ten though? There are worse GI winners out there, far worse.

The Indomitable DrugS · #59 03-25-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

When speaking of horses who won GI races from 7 to 10 furlongs, I think Congaree is largely forgotten. His game also traveled, but when he threw in a bad one, it sure was ugly.

Congaree was certainly a better horse than RHT. He was pretty close to unbeatable when he was at his absolute best.

Sightseek · #60 03-25-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

A lot of people had an irrational fascination with Rock Hard Ten back in 2005; I don't DrugSy was alone in that regard. Why the hate for Rock Hard Ten though? There are worse GI winners out there, far worse.

No hate here, but because of your first statement, I think he belongs on the list of Most Overated Horses on the Internet, maybe not on the top, but he belongs. The media was a bit out of control in regards to him too.