Aqu 7th: why no refund on the #10? - Page 3

blackthroatedwind · #41 02-28-2009, 09:05 PM

It's a good thing you can take losing.

Scav · #42 02-28-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

i played GP and lost today , i played FG the other day and lost i can take the losing , i can take bad racing luck , but , it always seems to happen to me in NY that's all

Why bet it then?

AeWingnut · #43 02-28-2009, 09:14 PM

I only play 3 tracks and Aqu ain't one of them

VOL JACK · #44 02-28-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Translation of what?

Da Hoss's jumbled up rambling, he calls a post. See Post #24

gales0678 · #45 02-28-2009, 09:22 PM

well i'll leave off with a final report from the otb after r7

not a table was broken
not a chair smashed

no gurads were summoned to escort any patrons ,evey one just went back and started bashing bush again!

AeWingnut · #46 02-28-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

well i'll leave off with a final report from the otb after r7

not a table was broken
not a chair smashed

no gurads were summoned to escort any patrons ,evey one just went back and started bashing bush again!

oh, well... I guess it is good they lost

Handicappy · #47 02-28-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

i got what he is saying the #3 was lower in the exotic pools that what he was in the win pool

and if you watch the race and don't think that a horse getting stuck in the gate , a horse ending up in the parking lot after blowing a routine turn and exotic payouts comng back short raise red flags then i guess red flags should never be raised

andy is great , he works hard as anyone in the game, he has knowledge of the game far greater than most, but the fact remains he is a NYRA employee and any opinion he gives on here (on a nyra issue)brings an inherent conflict of interest

My gawd!!! The horse that blew the turn was already explained. The horse broke a rein. Ever try to steer a horse without a rein! Fact, I was there.

The 10 sat to take a load off his feet at the wrong time. There was a long inquiry that I assume included the horse that wanted to check out the cars by the training track as well as the horse who wanted to relax a bit.

Andy explained the betting payouts well.

But it isn't just Andy as your remark regarding the horse blowing a "routine turn" suggests. You just don't want to hear it.

I get it. Everyone here complaining didn't win and therefore someone must have cheated or is engaged in a cover-up.

Signed, Not an employee of NYRA.

#48 02-28-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I can see I can't talk sanely here.

Back to just making jokes.

Making jokes here equals sanity.

sdjcom · #49 02-28-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

well i'll leave off with a final report from the otb after r7

not a table was broken
not a chair smashed

no gurads were summoned to escort any patrons ,evey one just went back and started bashing bush again!

like i always say if your horse got bump, tripped sat down bad jockey ride, tracffic,you picked the wrong horse pretty simple get ready for tommorrow and forget it you'll never get that same money back.

Handicappy · #50 02-28-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Making jokes here equals sanity.

gales0678 · #51 03-01-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mes5107

Trifecta pool $196,534.00 less 25% takeout leaves $147,400.50. A $1 trifecta ticket paid $989.50, so there were $148.00 worth of winning trifecta tickets and the breakage was $954.50. That's how it paid that much, unless there's some sort of conspiracy and NYRA is cheating, if that's what your getting at.

A lot of people like to throw a bunch of bombs into a trifecta for that lottery-type ticket. It seems that was the case here.

not sure if you are correct on the above, the numbers the public see are after the takeout , so the tri pool from my understanding was $196k

gales0678 · #52 03-01-2009, 07:57 AM

ok guys in the ny post today:

race 7 - "lots of wierd ways to lose a race"

"as the gates opened the #10 reared up, sat down ,and appeared to be in the hands of the starter at the break, but no refund"

well i guess ed fountaine has no crediblitly either he must be watching these races with me at the local otb parlor

Danzig · #53 03-01-2009, 08:19 AM

so, they're supposed to refund when a horse rears up and sits down? how did the starter cause the problem if most of the problem seems to be the horse?

but then, i don't understand how you can ask a guy to explain, suggest meeting him to figure things out, and then tell him he has no credibility anyway. seems a bit of a puzzle there as well.

mes5107 · #54 03-01-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

not sure if you are correct on the above, the numbers the public see are after the takeout , so the tri pool from my understanding was $196k

are you sure about this?

If so, then the original pool was $262,045.33. Kind of a weird number.

Anyways, the point of my post was that there was a small number of winning tickets. When you have a small number, the variance of the payout is huge. One more person who has the winning combination changes the payout by hundreds of dollars. It can go the opposite way as well.

fpsoxfan · #55 03-01-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

ok guys in the ny post today:

race 7 - "lots of wierd ways to lose a race"

"as the gates opened the #10 reared up, sat down ,and appeared to be in the hands of the starter at the break, but no refund"

well i guess ed fountaine has no crediblitly either he must be watching these races with me at the local otb parlor

Wow...a horse can rear up, sit down and be in the hands of the starter the entire time. Come on man, this has gone too far. A lot of weird things happened in this race, but in the end, you lost, I lost, and a whole bunch of other people lost. I used the 6 and 7, but never looked at the 3 until the race was over. I was not a big fan of the 2, but I thought he'd be around for at least 3rd. As far as the payouts, this happens all the time. How come people don't say much when the exacta/triple/super comes out a bit higher than the Win/Place parlay?

Andy did an excellent job of explaining all of this and Handicappy gave us his take. It's time to move on and get ready for today's card.

gales0678 · #56 03-01-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

so, they're supposed to refund when a horse rears up and sits down? how did the starter cause the problem if most of the problem seems to be the horse?

but then, i don't understand how you can ask a guy to explain, suggest meeting him to figure things out, and then tell him he has no credibility anyway. seems a bit of a puzzle there as well.

where in any of my posts do i mention a credibility issue, go back and look at the posts and show me where i am questioning his credibiliy

herkhorse · #57 03-01-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

oh, well... I guess it is good they lost

so if people have different political views than you, you want them to lose?

AeWingnut · #58 03-01-2009, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse

so if people have different political views than you, you want them to lose?

absolutely

gales0678 · #59 03-01-2009, 09:30 AM

i watched the reply today

what befuddles me even more is what dominguez does

a speed horse goes to dead last , and then circles the whole field going 5W ,

then when castro goes by him in the lane , ramon then goes to the whip after he is already gone , then eases up on the horse when he relaizes he can't win , i would guess it had to be his worst ride of the day

AeWingnut · #60 03-01-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678

where in any of my posts do i mention a credibility issue, go back and look at the posts and show me where i am questioning his credibiliy

didn't find the post but I know I read one by you that said something like... he works for NYRA so he has no cred.