Cast your Dee Tee baseball HoF vote

[Crown@club]

Harold Baines - definitely a baseball player, but just not HOF worthy
†Jay Bell - nope
†David Cone - iffy. I don't see it.
†Ron Gant - gets a vote and system once again would be known as a joke.
†Mark Grace - another ball player, but not even Harold Baines worthy
Jack Morris - Despite his 2 World Series MVP's. His 10 inning win. I'm just not there. Maybe once Blyleven gets the call, I might reconsider
Dale Murphy - I think injuries may have derailed a possibility
†Jesse Orosco - sorry but longevity of a lefthanded reliever doesn't qualify as HOF worthy.
Dave Parker - Love this guy. I still remember his rifle arm in the all-star game to get a runner. I still don't see it now. Veteran's?
†Dan Plesac - Again if this guy gets a vote, then system is a joke.
Tim Raines - I need to warm up more. But definitely didn't like this guy to get on base, just to see the Hawk drive him home. Give me a year.
Alan Trammell - Another team player. But HOF worthy?
†Greg Vaughn - Another guy who shouldn't get a vote.
†Mo Vaughn - think he'll get a NY writer vote?
†Matt Williams - Not even in the league of Baines or Parker.

[SniperSB23]

Bert Blyleven
Andre Dawson
Rickey Henderson
Mark McGwire
Jim Rice

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

+ designates first year on ballot
No write in votes (That is you Scuds)
Mark who ever you feels deserves induction and we can argue later


Harold Baines
†Jay Bell
Bert Blyleven
†David Cone
Andre Dawson
†Ron Gant
†Mark Grace
†Rickey Henderson
Tommy John
Don Mattingly
Mark McGwire
Jack Morris
Dale Murphy
†Jesse Orosco
Dave Parker
†Dan Plesac
Tim Raines
Jim Rice
Lee Smith
Alan Trammell
†Greg Vaughn
†Mo Vaughn
†Matt Williams

Henderson is the only clear cut HOF'er on this list. A lot of borderline ones...of those I think Blyleven is the best of those listed.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Henderson is the only clear cut HOF'er on this list.

Why not McGwire? Have you personally drug tested Henderson to know he was never on steroids?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Why not McGwire? Have you personally drug tested Henderson to know he was never on steroids?

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INjuries curtailed a lot of his career as well. He was a monster from 1996-2000 and I could care less about steroids. I don't care if Henderson did steroids nor McGwire. I dont' think McGwire is a hall of famer with steroids.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

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INjuries curtailed a lot of his career as well. He was a monster from 1996-2000 and I could care less about steroids. I don't care if Henderson did steroids nor McGwire. I dont' think McGwire is a hall of famer with steroids.

You vote for Rice over Dawson using OBP and SLG % differences of 20 points but dont like McGwire despite his OBP being 40 points beter than Rice and his Slg% being 80 points higher than Rices. Not to mention his hitting 200 more hR's than Rice, being a 12 time all star, rookie of the Year, gold glove winner, and hitting into 150 less DP's than Rice.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You vote for Rice over Dawson using OBP and SLG % differences of 20 points but dont like McGwire despite his OBP being 40 points beter than Rice and his Slg% being 80 points higher than Rices. Not to mention his hitting 200 more hR's than Rice, being a 12 time all star, rookie of the Year, gold glove winner, and hitting into 150 less DP's than Rice.

Rice never had years even remotely as bad as McGwire did in what should have been his prime years. Hitting in the 70s and early 80s ...was it not different than the late 90s? Stacking 4 or 5 great years to me does not a hall of famer make. I don't think Rice is a hall of famer either...but he is more of one than McGwire. Travis Hafner also has a much higher slugging percentage and OBP than Jim Rice...does that make Hafner a hall of famer or more worthy of a vote than Jim Rice??

You can compare Rice and Dawson's stats...they played at basically the same time or very close. McGwire didn't play when they did. I only voted for Ricky Henderson on the list.