12/26 (SA): Sir Beaufort (Gr. III); Malibu (Gr. I)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I agree all the way, the third race was a stronger race buy a first time starter but what do you want me to say to the poster when I was completely wrong on BBJ? I will be against the winner against better sprinters next month.

Tell him he got a nice break, and to enjoy it. Tell him to send Bejarano, and Rosario some (since they both had horse early n' strangled them so Flores could stick his tongue out late.) The problem with thoroughbred stakes racing is the horses aren't physically able to take much racing. So, a lot of times people don't want to run a rabbit of their own. They're selfish sonbitches that rely on others to keep speed from getting away easily. They see a couple other horses with some speed and assume they are gunna go. Then, they run some races, and see only lone speed is hanging on. So, they refuse to do their job, because they now know that they have no shot at winning(if they make the dominant speed run a decent pace.) The 3rd race was a true test. That 2 year old was impressive, and got no break up front. All this information for sale is totally useless if they let the speed cakewalk on a slow pace. You really don't know whether they are gunna make them run an honest half, but determining a winner totally depends on that. Look at the genius in the racing form(FREE.) His last sentence (about the race) is that such n' such horse is gunna push BJ. Mid-race, the horse was not pushing at all(game over ...lone lead on a 4f in 44'4.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I might need my tinfoil hat to post after that. But, isn't it possible that Bob Black Jack had a tactical advantage and used it? No one in that line up was even close to being able to go with him early and no one did. It had nothing to do with anyone taking back. I had no bet on the race, except for a pic 4 that busted in the first leg, so I'm not redboarding. But who should have been running with him early that didn't?

No, I am not gunna waste time on your back n' forth stupidity. I'll answer once, and that's the end of me putting up with your contrarian bullsht. Indian Weaver could have pushed him, but an irritant like you is gunna tell us nobody in here could? I don't mean go head n' head. I mean force a decent pace. Force him to run something up front. This is a grade 1, and he ran as fast as Indian Weaver (for 4f.) The Cal bred 2 year olds ran faster. Golden Spikes pushed the front on a 44'3 in the Kings Bishop. Into Mischief has run 44'1, and 44'2 . Guns on the table just pushed a 43'3. You're full of more bullsht than Texas.Wait n' see. I've got the discipline to allow you to now run your bullsht without having throw back. I have evolved past you.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I might need my tinfoil hat to post after that. But, isn't it possible that Bob Black Jack had a tactical advantage and used it? No one in that line up was even close to being able to go with him early and no one did. It had nothing to do with anyone taking back. I had no bet on the race, except for a pic 4 that busted in the first leg, so I'm not redboarding. But who should have been running with him early that didn't?

EXACTLY!!! I dont understand why people think that race was loaded with speed?? I picked BBJ based on his advantage on the front end and Flores took it to his favor. Anyone else who wanted to dance with BBJ on the front was probably asking for suicide anyways.

Running rabbits is a cowards way of keeping the pace fast.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

No, I am not gunna waste time on your back n' forth stupidity. I'll answer once, and that's the end of me putting up with your contrarian bullsht. Indian Weaver could have pushed him, but an irritant like you is gunna tell us nobody in here could? I don't mean go head n' head. I mean force a decent pace. Force him to run something up front. This is a grade 1, and he ran as fast as Indian Weaver (for 4f.) The Cal bred 2 year olds ran faster. Golden Spikes pushed the front on a 44'3 in the Kings Bishop. Into Mischief has run 44'1, and 44'2 . Guns on the table just pushed a 43'3. You're full of more bullsht than Texas.Wait n' see. I've got the discipline to allow you to now run your bullsht without having throw back. I have evolved past you.

The last time Golden Spikes pushed the pace he ran last. The last time Into Mischief went 44'1 he lost. If anyone could have forced it could have been GOTT but he was in striking distance to pounce just in case BBJ did not fire (which could have been the case). As far as I know, I dont blame any jockey for thier rides.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

EXACTLY!!! I dont understand why people think that race was loaded with speed?? I picked BBJ based on his advantage on the front end and Flores took it to his favor. Anyone else who wanted to dance with BBJ on the front was probably asking for suicide anyways.

Running rabbits is a cowards way of keeping the pace fast.

Golden Spike wins on the front end and he must of changed his mind about trying to win the race when the gate opened.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I might need my tinfoil hat to post after that. But, isn't it possible that Bob Black Jack had a tactical advantage and used it? No one in that line up was even close to being able to go with him early and no one did. It had nothing to do with anyone taking back. I had no bet on the race, except for a pic 4 that busted in the first leg, so I'm not redboarding. But who should have been running with him early that didn't?

He went to the front and found out that everybody wanted to sit and wait. I guess you could say that he did use "a tactical speed play to out run them.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

He went to the front and found out that everybody wanted to sit and wait. I guess you could say that he did use "a tactical speed play to out run them.

Tell me which horse wanted the lead other than BBJ? Golden Spikes ran better than expected.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

"No one in that line up was even close to being able to go with him early"-HOSS

"I'm sure someone in that race could have pushed him..."-HOSS

pick one!

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

What race has Golden Spikes won on the front end? He's a stalker. Wolfson isn't going to ship across the country to burn his horse out on the front end.

14Jun08Crc° 6f ft :22 :45¨ :57© 1:10¨ ¨¨Unbridled
100k ¨©¨ 87 104/ 100 -ª -¬ 107 4 2 3«� 2² 1¨ 1² Trujillo E¨¨¬ Lf *0.60 GldnSpks ²GentlmnJms¨§‚MkeMZchª

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

14Jun08Crc° 6f ft :22 :45¨ :57© 1:10¨ ¨¨Unbridled
100k ¨©¨ 87 104/ 100 -ª -¬ 107 4 2 3«� 2² 1¨ 1² Trujillo E¨¨¬ Lf *0.60 GldnSpks ²GentlmnJms¨§‚MkeMZchª

In reference to the race you mentioned.
1)He was 4.5 lengths behind the leader at the first call.
2)He was midpack in a 6 horse field before he made a middle move.
3)That means he was working around 23'1 for the first call and 45'1 for the second. no where near a fast pace
4) He beat a **** field that day
5)WHy are we even considering Golden SPikeS? Was he even a contender yesterday?
6) He ran beter than expected yesterday. I was expecting a DNF