Cubs get HARDEN

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

This might be one of my favorite posts of all time

Gaudin was just warming up, bringing in Marmol instead

Dont let Scuds fool you, Gaudin is not a star. he may be the 5th best RP the cubs have.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

So far, Hudson on his way to no-hitting the Dodgers.

Yeah and Lowe is no hitting the Braves

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Your arguement is lame. Beane is selling the guy while he is healthy and getting back a good prospect in Gallagher. Gallagher is 22. Do you know how many 22 year olds are pitching in the majors and doing well? About 5. Gallagher has neither a high walk rate or high BA against. How many innings should he be pitching. He was 27-12 in the minors with a 2.70 era as a 18-21 year old. he has never had a high walk rate. There is no guarantees that he will become John Danks next year but thats what happens with young pitchers.
"So what if he gets hurt?" That makes you a great GM...The guy ALWAYS gets hurt. He has pitched one complete season out of 6 seasons. he is a ticking time bomb. They get a possible number 3 or 2 starter who is 22 and Murton who may still be ok for a guy who the last 3 years has started 25 games and a mop up guy. That just doesnt seem too bad. As a matter of fact there is a better chance of those 2 guys helping the A's than the other 2 did. Gaudin was a mop up man for a reason. Because the A's have a bunch of pitchers that are better than him. Gallagher's best may never be equal to Harden's best but there is a strong chance that we dont see much of Harden's best.
I said that the signing of Jones by the Dodgers was a good move because they didnt have to sign him long term. He was terrible and got hurt. At least they dont have to pay him past next year. It was still an acceptable risk.

No, Andruw didn't get hurt. He looks exactly the same as he did before the surgery. He was gunna have it done after the season, but Joe begged him to have the surgery in early June. I ain't kid'n. Anything to get him out of the game.....BTW LOWE perfect game thru 6. Dodgers got just 1 hit against Hudson(one of them Oakland pitchers that is not that good anymore..lol.)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont let Scuds fool you, Gaudin is not a star. he may be the 5th best RP the cubs have.

No, he isn't a star, but the Cubs will get good spot pitching from him.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Made a mistake to Kemp...Crushed it.

[Cannon Shell]

Joe Sheehan on the trade

"The trade ends up looking like one that made sense for both teams, given the expectations on each and each organization’s relative focus. The A’s are trying to build for 2010, while the Cubs are trying to not go 101 years without a championship. The A’s didn’t have much reason to bet on Harden’s upside, given the money owed to him and their chances of winning this year, while the Cubs not only have reason to, they were offered the pitcher for a price they could happily pay. Neither team is likely to lose this trade, and it seems clear that both could win it. That’s the definition of a good deal."

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Joe Sheehan on the trade

"The trade ends up looking like one that made sense for both teams, given the expectations on each and each organization’s relative focus. The A’s are trying to build for 2010,

Yea, but my problem lies in the expectations and overall focus of the A's management right now. Building for 2010? This didn't just start a couple years ago. They were surely using the excuse of building for 2008 when giving away other good players 2-5 years ago. If I really believed they were trying to get young talent together(to keep to one day get a ring,) then, believe me, I would buy into their stories. They have proven they are liars. This is why you see very few people in that green stadium, but the lil house across the bay is full every time you see a game on T.V. there. One has relative good will from the people of the bay area,and the other doesn't. The one with much fewer fans is the one who has won rings for the bay area, but they choose to pay to see the team with no rings, and the team with the consistently worse record. There is a reason for that. They know that if this Gallagher kid does get good, then the A's will trade him before they have to pay him. Why would fans be interested in seeing them trade their players just when they are getting good? Why couldn't they have held on to Harden, and seen how they do in 2009? That's what they did with Zito in 2006. Now, if they are decent in 2009, they won't have Harden to help them. Like I said, they almost seem to want to make sure they never have quite enough to contend with teams like the Angels. The Angels had to have a pretty crappy year in 2006 for the A's to beat them, and it took a God-like year from the combination of Thomas, Bradley, and the other leftfielder free agent hitter(can't think of his name, but they refused to pay him anything after that season.....anger control an issue with this one as well as Bradley.) Point is they don't seem to have made this trade to really accomplish anything (except stay young n' cheap, and hated by bay area fans.) You see a plan, and I see them doing nothing but the same bull that is keeping them from having enough to really compete with top teams in 2008. It's always gunna be 2 years in the future with this management. That's the claim 8 years ago, and it will be the same false claim as long as Billy is there.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dont let Scuds fool you, Gaudin is not a star. he may be the 5th best RP the cubs have.

I get to see Harden's first two starts live, this Saturday and in AZ on Monday (also the unveiling of the Soto jersey)

Hopefully he makes it to his 2nd start with the way you guys are talking

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

I get to see Harden's first two starts live, this Saturday and in AZ on Monday (also the unveiling of the Soto jersey)

Hopefully he makes it to his 2nd start with the way you guys are talking

If Gallagher gets any good, you can make a deal with these whores to get him right back. So, I don't see the risk in the deal. Harden's salary for the next season n' a half will be paid in one homestand's beer concessions. If Harden gets hurt before the deadline, then these whores will probably give up Duscherer to ya as well. They don't want to sign him for 2010(although these liars claim they are building for a great 2010,) and it's obvious they don't care about 2008/9.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If Gallagher gets any good, you can make a deal with these whores to get him right back. So, I don't see the risk in the deal. Harden's salary for the next season n' a half will be paid in one homestand's beer concessions. If Harden gets hurt before the deadline, then these whores will probably give up Duscherer to ya as well. They don't want to sign him for 2010(although these liars claim they are building for a great 2010,) and it's obvious they don't care about 2008/9.

I don't know what Murton will turn into but I can tell you that the deal is essentially Harden,Guadin for Gallagher. Patterson is garbage, no idea about the catcher but he wasn't going anywhere with Soto probably around for a long time.

Beane really solved ALOT of Hendry's problems becuase he was constantly asked why Murton/Patterson weren't producing, yadda yadda and now, Hendry gets to wash his hands of the BS. I don't even know if they were looking for another starter, the bullpen has been stressed alot lately because Pinella has had a short fuse so the addition of Guadin could be even more important then Harden. Last night was a perfect example. Score is 5 to 1 bottom 9, and he pulls Marmol and brings in Wood for one hitter.

Now, if it were life or death, sure, pull him, but middle season games are not and I see no reason to bring in Wood in that situation, regardless if his arm is fine or not. Maybe I am just the ultimate pessamist because I personally think Wood is one pitch away from throwing his arm completely off. Why not leave Marmol in and let him fight his way through it. He doesn't give up many HR's and his stuff is electric, and he might get some confidence from getting through a trying situation.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If Gallagher gets any good, you can make a deal with these whores to get him right back. So, I don't see the risk in the deal. Harden's salary for the next season n' a half will be paid in one homestand's beer concessions. If Harden gets hurt before the deadline, then these whores will probably give up Duscherer to ya as well. They don't want to sign him for 2010(although these liars claim they are building for a great 2010,) and it's obvious they don't care about 2008/9.

It isn't IF with him Scuds, he is solid, real good fastball, good curve, needs one more pitch, has some testicular fortitude, not afraid, no skirt for him.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

It isn't IF with him Scuds, he is solid, real good fastball, good curve, needs one more pitch, has some testicular fortitude, not afraid, no skirt for him.

You guys can just make a deal to get Duscherer for the 2nd half of 2009, and sign him as a free agent going into 2010. Then, when Gallagher is polished(in 3-4 years,) you can get him from the A whores for a couple lil biscuits

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You guys can just make a deal to get Duscherer for the 2nd half of 2009, and sign him as a free agent going into 2010. Then, when Gallagher is polished(in 3-4 years,) you can get him from the A whores for a couple lil biscuits

So much hatred, and they are not even 'your' team....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Scav

So much hatred, and they are not even 'your' team....

Because Beane and Di podesta are liar filth that destroy chemistry. We sent dat piece of Di Po garbage out of L.A. after he fkd our team up. Now he helped fck up San Diego. Beane hatched that fkn Demon.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Because Beane and Di podesta are liar filth that destroy chemistry. We sent dat piece of Di Po garbage out of L.A. after he fkd our team up. Now he helped fck up San Diego. Beane hatched that fkn Demon.

[Scav]

First hitter Gaudin faces. Ball ends up in bleachers

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Scav

First hitter Gaudin faces. Ball ends up in bleachers

Love it! Almost as good as Lilly not making it thru 3 innings against the Reds

[Scav]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Love it! Almost as good as Lilly not making it thru 3 innings against the Reds

Seriously, EVERY SINGLE TIME i turn this little f'n sports radio on at work, something bad happens. I turned it on, two batters later Griffey hit that bomb, I see Gaudin is coming in on ESPN.com, gives up a BOMB. Gonna turn it off now and see what happens.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Scav

Seriously, EVERY SINGLE TIME i turn this little f'n sports radio on at work, something bad happens. I turned it on, two batters later Griffey hit that bomb, I see Gaudin is coming in on ESPN.com, gives up a BOMB. Gonna turn it off now and see what happens.

How do you listen to Ron Santo on a regular basis? At first I found it funny to laugh at how ridiculous he is, but after a while he is unlistenable. We are spoiled with Uecker in Milwaukee. He is by far the best ever.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by wiphan

How do you listen to Ron Santo on a regular basis? At first I found it funny to laugh at how ridiculous he is, but after a while he is unlistenable. We are spoiled with Uecker in Milwaukee. He is by far the best ever.

Love Santo, keeps me in a good mood because of how hilarious, Kinda like reading Scuds Late night

Random thought, obviously i have seen the Brewers play alot of games, and it seems like they almost suffer sometimes when they have a good pitcher on the mound. Their coach needs to get them to focus better when Sheets/CC pitch, especially in the bullpen, can't believe they lost yesterday after the way sheets pitched...