Wimbledon

Originally Posted by Samarta

so how do you take him over Federer on 2 of 3 major surfaces but say Federer is a better player?

What surface are most tournaments played on?
Answer: Hard Courts.

What surface did Borg NEVER win a major championship on?
Answer: Hard Courts.

And there you have it.

Originally Posted by Samarta

Federer beat him in Hamburg....yes it's clay, but it's as close to hard courts without being on one as you'll ever find....just because it says clay doesn't mean it's Roland Garros. Can he beat him on clay? sure...Is Nadal in his head? absolutely.....will he ever win the French......I say he's got one maybe two more legit shots....

Agree in totality.

Originally Posted by Samarta

They actually did a side by side shot of Borg/Federer's forehands and the motion was almost identical.....I saw most of the greats from the 70's and 80's play in person several times and I personally thought McEnroe was the most talented...he had the best hands of anyone that has ever played period....the guy was a magician at the net.....

Motion maybe the same... But the forehand grips of today would have been ridiculed in the mid 70's early 80's. And the technology of the racket has changed tennis. Thats why comparisons are difficult.

McEnroe was a magician with the racket. Best Volley ever. Best half volley by far... I have never seen anything like some of the stuff he did. But Borg was better imo... much, much faster. Borg ran down anything and everything.

And I actually played Steve Denton (two time Australian Open finalist) and got thoroughly crushed in some sectional tournaments in Texas. (The guy had a huge serve and was older) And I have been to the US Open and seen McEnroe play... Connors. So I have a tiny bit of credibility even though I hate the game with a passion (to play), would much rather shoot hoops.

[brockguy]

some game yesterday.. It is a joy to watch the two of these guys play as mentally and physically, they are streets ahead of the rest... I'm a huge Fed fan and you would naturally think that I wouldnt like Nadal but he is so gutsy, so tough and seems to get to absolutely everything that it is hard not to like him.. I do think Nadal is lacking to Federer is pretty much every department of the game, shot wise, save his backhand..