Met Mile

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He has absolutely no chance to hit the board tomorrow. He won't be on the lead with Dutrow's rabbit and Half Ours in there. Also take a look at his last, the horse that was second ran dead last against High Finance today and Funny Cide was third. As a New Yorker I like Funny Cide, but come on, he would be lucky to be in the same zip code as some of these horses. If Accountforthegold is in the money tomorrow there needs to be an immediate investigation.

I agree with you... Stands no chance, at every angle. I'll be wagering this race heavily tomorrow. Leaning towards Latent Heat, with Political Force being my value play. I vow to give up horse racing (for a month) if Aftg hits the board, for my handicapping would be deemed worthless to me.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I actually think this is a rather overrated group of horses...and not the "star studded" field that is being so widely reported.

#1 Mr. Umphrey- Is SW's rabbit and has no chance.

#1A Silver Wagon- got the dream trip/setup he projected to get last time out.

#2. Lawyer Ron- Will be overbet off a win against a soft field last time out.

#3. Half Ours- Is overrated, and has the expected fast pace working against him.

#4. Sun King- Is 0-for-12 lifetime in Grade 1 races, his only win in about the last 20 months or so came at the expense of Kazoo.

#5. Accountforthegold- Has the pace working against him...and has a habit of folding when denied the lead.

#6. Latent Heat- While he had a big trip excuse last time, I thought he had real soft trips in his two Southern Cal stake wins.

#7. Political Force- Just isn't all that good.

#8. Corinthian- Had a trip excuse in last--after a pair of soft trip wins in South Florida.

#9. Silent Name- Has never run on a natural dirt surface...and is doing so for the first time in Grade 1 stake company.


Needless to say---this isn't exactly my favorite running of the Met Mile.

[declansharbor]

NOw that you got all of the cons out of the way, what are some of the pros of the race?? lol

I agree, after seeing the nominations, I was ecstatic. It's safe to say it didnt fill up as expected..Bummer, but oh well..

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

NOw that you got all of the cons out of the way, what are some of the pros of the race?? lol

The cons certainly far outweigh the pros in this one.

Silver Wagon and Sun King appear to be the two most likely to get the best setup with all the speed in the race.

Lawyer Ron and Latent Heat appear to have the best chances if the pace turns out slower than expected....but LR will be too short of a price.

Silent Name, who is something of a wildcard, has FAR better dirt breeding than you see for the average horse trying a natural dirt surface for the first time in Grade 1 company.

His 3rd, 4th, and 5th dam were all American stake winners on dirt. His 1st and 2nd dam never had the chance to run over it. Sire Sunday Silence was an all-time great racehorse--making all of his career starts on dirt---however, he's proved to be a little better turf sire.

I give an edge to Silver Wagon as the Met's most likely winner.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I actually think this is a rather overrated group of horses...and not the "star studded" field that is being so widely reported.

#1 Mr. Umphrey- Is SW's rabbit and has no chance.

#1A Silver Wagon- got the dream trip/setup he projected to get last time out.

#2. Lawyer Ron- Will be overbet off a win against a soft field last time out.

#3. Half Ours- Is overrated, and has the expected fast pace working against him.

#4. Sun King- Is 0-for-12 lifetime in Grade 1 races, his only win in about the last 20 months or so came at the expense of Kazoo.

#5. Accountforthegold- Has the pace working against him...and has a habit of folding when denied the lead.

#6. Latent Heat- While he had a big trip excuse last time, I thought he had real soft trips in his two Southern Cal stake wins.

#7. Political Force- Just isn't all that good.

#8. Corinthian- Had a trip excuse in last--after a pair of soft trip wins in South Florida.

#9. Silent Name- Has never run on a natural dirt surface...and is doing so for the first time in Grade 1 stake company.


Needless to say---this isn't exactly my favorite running of the Met Mile.

You just made a case for a competitive race. Thats exactly what most people want to see. No Ghostzapper going off at 2/5. Unless you are saying Silver Wagon will win going away. I am excited cause of the unknowns.

I did enjoy watching Mineshaft absolutley crush 4 and 5 horse fields. But it was not the least bit interesting.

Silver Wagon if he doesn't scratch. That's a big if when you're talking about Dutrow.

[Antitrust32]

this is a friggin real good field, considering ya know, how the horses are these days. I am looking forward to this race. i'll probably play and exacta using pletchers two, sun king, and laten heat. Maybe a tri too. I'll have to check what the exacta prices will be paying before I shell out the dough I dont really have.

Edit: I like Silver Wagon also.. again, I'll have to check out prices and PP's before final dec. but those 5 horses will be the play (maybe I'll do a tri and key a horse.... dunno... trying to figure out this whole gamblin thing, eventhough i've been trying it for 12 years now)

[blackthroatedwind]

I don't know how anyone can look at this race and consider Half Ours a contender. If he was trained by anyone else he would be 30-1. He's impossible here. Where the hell is his good race?

[brianwspencer]

I think Silent Name has every chance to take to the dirt -- and should be heavily considered, along with Sun King and (gulp) Lawyer Ron.

[King Glorious]

I think I'm going with Lawyer Ron for the win over Silent Name with Half Ours third. In the tri, I'll play:

Lawyer Ron/Silent Name/Half Ours
Lawyer Ron/Silent Name/Half Ours
Lawyer Ron/Silent Name/Half Ours/Latent Heat/Corinthian

[XIIPointStables]

Pace looks like it will set up for Sun King or Silver Wagon.

Politcal Force will need to step it up but I'll take a shot/play some exotics with him,

Never off the board at Belmont. Never off the board at a mile. Jerkens/C-Val. Getting good at the right time?

We'll see.

[dylbert]

Originally Posted by pick4

Can you find a race in his pp's where he did not have to confront a fast pace yet and was not fast enough to get the lead? I can find the Derby and BC Classic. This is a flat mile and I can't see him working out an easy trip here.
He'll have to run fast early, middle, and late. I think Lawyer Ron will crack under pressure.

I have it down to Sun King, and maybe Silent Name or Silver Wagon closing past the hot pace.

Lawyer Ron is not suited for pace and distance to win at 10 furlongs -- see last year's Kentucky Derby and BC Classic. He is Grade 2 winner, Arkansas Derby & Oaklawn Handicap, looking to take next step in Grade 1 event. Pletcher has well-planned 2007 campaign for Lawyer Ron. First, he wins February tuneup at GP; then, dominates Oaklawn's premier race for older horses at 9 panels.

Today's cutback to one-turn mile is superior fit for his breeding and training. He will stalk early speed, start moving forward around 3/8th pole, and will get and maintain lead for 2-plus length victory. Prado handled him masterfully in OP win. He will use LR's high cruising speed and repeat today!

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The cons certainly far outweigh the pros in this one.

Silver Wagon and Sun King appear to be the two most likely to get the best setup with all the speed in the race.

Lawyer Ron and Latent Heat appear to have the best chances if the pace turns out slower than expected....but LR will be too short of a price.

Silent Name, who is something of a wildcard, has FAR better dirt breeding than you see for the average horse trying a natural dirt surface for the first time in Grade 1 company.

His 3rd, 4th, and 5th dam were all American stake winners on dirt. His 1st and 2nd dam never had the chance to run over it. Sire Sunday Silence was an all-time great racehorse--making all of his career starts on dirt---however, he's proved to be a little better turf sire.

I give an edge to Silver Wagon as the Met's most likely winner.

Doesnt the fact that SW has never won going a mile or at Belmont bug you?

I agree betting Sun King isnt exactly a lock as he has had problems winning.

[Danzig]

i think this is a pretty good field--think about some of the gr 1 fields we've been subjected to!

if silent name takes to the dirt, i like him to win it.

if not, sun king over ron, with silver wagon coming late for a piece.

i agree about half ours, i think he's in over his head--now watch him win it!

[hurricanefrank]

#4 Sun King (5-1) is my tepid selection in very intriguing feature but I will need value to play him. Was 2d in this race last year, losing by head to Silver Train; troubled '07 debut in G3 Westchester prep but that race, along with peppy 46.4 work on May 21, should set him up well for a top effort today; likely to sit behind the speed (and there's alot of it) and look to kick it in gear down the lane to swallow up what I hope will be tiring speed; worth noting he's the closest to knocking off World Champ Invasor, losing a nose bob last August in the Whitney at the Spa. The one to beat is Pletcher's #2 Lawyer Ron (5-2) who is fluorishing under Todd's care but likely to be overbet and still has yet to beat the caliber of horses he's facing today. Perhaps Pletcher gets him over the top today. Gotta use in any exotics under Prado. May also throw #9 Silent Name (JPN)(8-1) into the mix given he is a natural miler who comes in off smashing G2 score at KEE; question mark is fact that he tries dirt first time (20 starts); if his form translates, he could be a handful late.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Going with - Lawyer Ron & Sun King
I'll boxed them in an exacta and use underneath;
Latent Heat, Silver Wagon and Corinthian in the third spot.

NO superfecta in this race...why???

[IrishofNDMan]

I'm gonna take Silent Name. Probably do a little Win/Place bet on him.

[sumitas]

http://www.brisnet.com/Promo/Free_PPs/brd_comp.pdf

[Pedigree Ann]

Should one read anything into the fact that Prado DIDN't choose to ride unbeaten filly Vacare in a G1 in SoCal, choosing instead to ride Lawyer Ron in the Met Mile? One has to assume he had a choice; don't think Clemente told him to take a hike.

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Should one read anything into the fact that Prado DIDN't choose to ride unbeaten filly Vacare in a G1 in SoCal, choosing instead to ride Lawyer Ron in the Met Mile? One has to assume he had a choice; don't think Clemente told him to take a hike.

A chance at $36,000 or flying west for a chance at $18,000.