Excuses - Page 3

ultracapper · #41 05-22-2007, 01:35 AM

andy, do you think street sense is a better horse than curlin? not challenging, just asking.

blackthroatedwind · #42 05-22-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ultracapper

andy, do you think street sense is a better horse than curlin? not challenging, just asking.

Not based on Saturday.....but one day does not make a career. Right now they are two extremely good horses.

blackthroatedwind · #43 05-22-2007, 08:36 AM

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YOu know, if Dynever is your shining example maybe you should re-think the analogy.

Lessee: "Street Sense is a lucky horse because Giacomo is a plodder."

OKay, yeah, now I get it. I think.

You've made some pretty ridiculous posts here....but this one deserves a special place on the mantel. I hope you can blame it on alcohol as bitterness is hardly an apt excuse for stupidity.

estreetposse · #44 05-22-2007, 08:54 AM

I think what some of us playing "Devil's Advocates" on SS really want to see is him win a race by sweeping wide around 3,4, or 5 horses in a Grade 1 race as a 3 year old...If he is that good, shouldn't he still be able to overcome? That's all it would take for me to start really believing he is the top 3 yr old so far this year.

SentToStud · #45 05-22-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

I think what some of us playing "Devil's Advocates" on SS really want to see is him win a race by sweeping wide around 3,4, or 5 horses in a Grade 1 race as a 3 year old...If he is that good, shouldn't he still be able to overcome? That's all it would take for me to start really believing he is the top 3 yr old so far this year.

I guess that's what's being said to some extent. But he's 8-10 inches away from having a shot at the triple crown, so he's done very well. Or, maybe just two or three more good cracks with the left hand.

estreetposse · #46 05-22-2007, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

I guess that's what's being said to some extent. But he's 8-10 inches away from having a shot at the triple crown, so he's done very well. Or, maybe just two or three more good cracks with the left hand.

I agree that he, Curlin and HS are the top of this crop...I do believe IF he won the Preakness, a shot is only what he would have had and we still would be waiting till next year. He is a good horse and his record says so.

fpsoxfan · #47 05-22-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

I agree that he, Curlin and HS are the top of this crop...I do believe IF he won the Preakness, a shot is only what he would have had and we still would be waiting till next year. He is a good horse and his record says so.

What are you suddenly..the local expert on things around here? C'mon..BC Juvey...Derby.. win....win what idiot would take him 5 or 6 wide to begin with?

Linny · #48 05-22-2007, 09:52 AM

Good horses make good trips. How rare is it that we have to discuss the "horrible trip" suffered by a top class horse?

Good ones are athletic and quick enough to move when needed yet rateable enough to ease off and return to cruise control. While I hardly rate Afleet Alex amongst the greats of the game, he had that ability. His athleticism was apparent in the derby but especially in the Preakness. This year Tiago tried to follow SS through on the rail in KY and was left in his dust when he shot the rail. Tiago is a decent colt but he's not on par with SS.
SS has that ability with the added bonus of liking to race inside. That makes him the perfect match for Calvin "the termite" Bo-rail. He showed his guts in Tampa and his quickness in KY. Maybe he's a Churchill horse for course but he did run a big race last week. maybe he was just tired form the effort two weeks prior. Remember, racing back in 14 days is not something that stakes horses are used to any more.

ultracapper · #49 05-22-2007, 10:02 AM

i haven't really watched street sense's gallup outs, which may be over-rated to some extent, but sometimes they are indicative of a horse's overall toughness or distance abilities. ss is incredible in the far turn, but has made me nervous in the stretch every race this year, except kentucky, and i thought he was susceptable in the preakness. does he pretty much cash it in after the finish line? when "it's done", is "he done"? i don't think ss is a ***** by any standards, but i don't think he's a "dig in and get dirty" colt either. he and borel should have finished that deal in baltimore. very disappointing.

ultracapper · #50 05-22-2007, 10:05 AM

***** in previous post is another word used for cat, or kitty.

fpsoxfan · #51 05-22-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

What are you suddenly..the local expert on things around here? C'mon..BC Juvey...Derby.. win....win what idiot would take him 5 or 6 wide to begin with?

Just for the record I was just busting chops on my buddy Posse.

Linny · #52 05-22-2007, 10:30 AM

That Ft Plain branch must be a pretty wild place...whodathunkit?

fpsoxfan · #53 05-22-2007, 11:13 AM

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That Ft Plain branch must be a pretty wild place...whodathunkit?

It is.....especially this past weekend with the carnival right outside the back door. Horses and Carnies...It just doesn't get any better.

#54 05-22-2007, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You've made some pretty ridiculous posts here....but this one deserves a special place on the mantel. I hope you can blame it on alcohol as bitterness is hardly an apt excuse for stupidity.

I just want to know what your reasoning process is here. Using Giacomo seems strange as Giac. to me seems like one of the luckiest horses to win the derby in the last 20 years. Surely you're not comparing SS to Giac?

estreetposse · #55 05-22-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

What are you suddenly..the local expert on things around here? C'mon..BC Juvey...Derby.. win....win what idiot would take him 5 or 6 wide to begin with?

And if he had to go around 5 or 6 horses on the turn, is it still win...win?

Get back to work!!!

The Indomitable DrugS · #56 05-22-2007, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

Good horses make good trips. How rare is it that we have to discuss the "horrible trip" suffered by a top class horse?

It is stuff like this, that is like hearing nails on the chalkboard....and drives me into a hysteria of long-winded posts.

I don't agree with that at all...however, my views of what "perfect trips" and "bad trips" are....they are very much different than those of other people.

Afleet Alex had several bad trips in his career. While I'm glad he lost the BC Juvie for personal financial reasons....he was MUCH the best, and only lost due to the horrible trip he had. He also lost two other major races, where he arguably ran the best race from a trip standpoint.

fpsoxfan · #57 05-22-2007, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

And if he had to go around 5 or 6 horses on the turn, is it still win...win?

Get back to work!!!

if...piff...sniff......I am working....Study HAll right now.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #58 05-22-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

That Ft Plain branch must be a pretty wild place...whodathunkit?

It's the "wildest" branch of all the Capital OTB parlors

without a doubt!

Zippy Chippy · #59 05-22-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

I think what some of us playing "Devil's Advocates" on SS really want to see is him win a race by sweeping wide around 3,4, or 5 horses in a Grade 1 race as a 3 year old...If he is that good, shouldn't he still be able to overcome? That's all it would take for me to start really believing he is the top 3 yr old so far this year.

Well, if the rail is open and it is clear shot to the front, don't expect Borel to take Street Sense outside just to silence the Devil's Advocates. There is no reason to take the long way when the short cut is right in front of you.

estreetposse · #60 05-23-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zippy Chippy

Well, if the rail is open and it is clear shot to the front, don't expect Borel to take Street Sense outside just to silence the Devil's Advocates. There is no reason to take the long way when the short cut is right in front of you.

Thanks Sherlock...why didn't I think of that?