Circular Quay

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I don't have the charts anymore but I'm sure closers have won more than a few in the last 10 years, souped up track or not.

Yeah I don't have the charts for opening week but i'm sure speed was holding. I'm not going to look it up because I refuse to change my opinion, just like you.

We both agree CQ has no shot right? So why argue over semantics?

[tycharles01]

Squash it guys

Just put CQ 3/4 on tickets and you should be good

[ARyan]

Does anyone think that the Belmont might have been a better spot to bring back CQ?

Why rush for this spot, when you can train up and make a good run in the Belmont.

[cmorioles]

It is probably that avatar. The guy is named after a ballet dancer's costume and all.

Seriously, I think how the track played yesterday and all last week is a little more relevant than how it played a month ago. Your post, in my opinion, was misleading at best. We can agree to disagree. I do it with most horse players every single day at the windows at least 40 times a day.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Does anyone think that the Belmont might have been a better spot to bring back CQ?

Why rush for this spot, when you can train up and make a good run in the Belmont.

I'm not sure 1-1/2 miles is right up CQ's alley.
And the same owners (tabor) are sending rags to riches, so I'm not sure it makes much sense to place him there even if he does fit that track/race better.

I'm not saying CQ is a lock in the preakness, I just think he adds another interesting element to what was shaping up to be a fairly weak and predictably chalky race. Especially with Chelokee passing on it.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Does anyone think that the Belmont might have been a better spot to bring back CQ?

Why rush for this spot, when you can train up and make a good run in the Belmont.

No--the Met Mile would be a better spot than the Belmont for him...though Pletcher has probable favorite Lawyer Ron for that race.

Being out of Circle of Life, CQ's best served as a late runner in one-turn races at a mile or elongated sprint distances.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

It is probably that avatar. The guy is named after a ballet dancer's costume and all.

Seriously, I think how the track played yesterday and all last week is a little more relevant than how it played a month ago. Your post, in my opinion, was misleading at best. We can agree to disagree. I do it with most horse players every single day at the windows at least 40 times a day.

I'm thankful i'm not you. I'd kill myself. What a pathetic, petty excuse for a human being.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I'm thankful i'm not you. I'd kill myself. What a pathetic, petty excuse for a human being.

What exactly did I say to deserve that?

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No--the Met Mile would be a better spot than the Belmont for him...though Pletcher has probable favorite Lawyer Ron for that race.

Being out of Circle of Life, CQ's best served as a late runner in one-turn races at a mile or elongated sprint distances.

I would agree with the Met Mile being a better spot, and the one-turn mile thought.

I just don't like him in this Preakness spot.

Originally Posted by cmorioles

What exactly did I say to deserve that?

I gave you an opportunity to squash it and you respond with a chest-thumping "i'm best handicappar evar!!" response. You're pathetic.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

I'm not sure 1-1/2 miles is right up CQ's alley.
And the same owners (tabor) are sending rags to riches, so I'm not sure it makes much sense to place him there even if he does fit that track/race better.

I'm not saying CQ is a lock in the preakness, I just think he adds another interesting element to what was shaping up to be a fairly weak and predictably chalky race. Especially with Chelokee passing on it.

True, I spaced on the R2R and CQ being the same ownership group.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I gave you an opportunity to squash it and you respond with a chest-thumping "i'm best handicappar evar!!" response. You're pathetic.

You got that from this?

Seriously, I think how the track played yesterday and all last week is a little more relevant than how it played a month ago. Your post, in my opinion, was misleading at best. We can agree to disagree. I do it with most horse players every single day at the windows at least 40 times a day.

I made no claims other than I bet about 40 races a day.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

No--the Met Mile would be a better spot than the Belmont for him...though Pletcher has probable favorite Lawyer Ron for that race.

Being out of Circle of Life, CQ's best served as a late runner in one-turn races at a mile or elongated sprint distances.

I'm sure Pletcher can find plenty of races with lots of speed that'll collapse nicely for the runt. Why actually test him?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I made no claims other than I bet about 40 races a day.

And that's the reason why you're the best handicapper ever.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

And that's the reason why you're the best handicapper ever.

Awesome, I had no idea that was all it took. I may bump it up to 50 on Thursday. Monday to Wednesday are just too slow.

[blackthroatedwind]

The reason I assumed he would run in the Preakness is Coolmore. At this point, winning the Preakness or Met Mile ( where IMO he should be running ) may be about the only reasonable spots left to increase his breeding value, as he obviously has absolutely no chance in the Belmont.

While Todd has who may be the Met favorite in Lawyer Ron, good luck to him, I am sure if Tabor/Coolmore wanted to run Circular Quay there he would be running....Lawyer Ron or not.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

What exactly did I say to deserve that?

You disagreed with her. Now she is going to wet her pants.


He/she/it is by far the biggest whiner on here.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The reason I assumed he would run in the Preakness is Coolmore. At this point, winning the Preakness or Met Mile ( where IMO he should be running ) may be about the only reasonable spots left to increase his breeding value, as he obviously has absolutely no chance in the Belmont.

While Todd has who may be the Met favorite in Lawyer Ron, good luck to him, I am sure if Tabor/Coolmore wanted to run Circular Quay there he would be running....Lawyer Ron or not.

do you think they have an interest in beating Street Sense (who's sire is Street Cry)?

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

It wasn't meant that way. You said "well that is good to know". I was just trying to help. I disagreed with the guy about the results at Pimlico. Rather than just spit that out there, I took 5 minutes to back up my impressions.

I'll take the hard data over the "I was there in April" or "yeah, but one race was a claimer" and whatever else is used to back up an argument.

As for this post:



I don't have the charts anymore but I'm sure closers have won more than a few in the last 10 years, souped up track or not.

No problem. I am sorry that I reacted so strongly.
These misunderstandings happen on the net because you can't really detect the tone someone means to imply.
As far as I am concerned it is already forgotten.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

do you think they have an interest in beating Street Sense (who's sire is Street Cry)?

I wouldn't put anything past them. However, I think their main interest is in making Circular Quay worth as much as possible, which certainly makes perfect sense.