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[herkhorse]

It's both sides, don't kid yourself

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

are you sure you're from Arkansas?


kidding of course. I'll be in Hot Springs next week, can't wait!

i'm from maryland. moved here about 17 years ago. have a good time at oaklawn!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

It's both sides, don't kid yourself

sure it is. but some only want to see it from one side. like i said, blinkers on.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Both sides? Yes - because Keith Olbermann and Barney Frank are well-known for calling for people to be killed, for saying our government may have to be overthrown, and calling for citizens to be armed and dangerous

I agree with you that anybody who makes with the violent rhetoric (hey, I remember the late 1960's) is wrong. But right now, in our world, who is speaking violently is very clear. It's not "one side or the other", it's not even "one side", it is certain specific factions on the political scene. We all know who they are, and we can all watch and see if they change anything at all.

On Wednesday’s Countdown show, in his latest "Special Comment," MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann, after recounting some of the heartrending details of his father’s current health problems, went on to slam Sarah Palin, Betsy McCaughey, and ObamaCare critics, especially those who have used the term "death panels," calling such national health care opponents by the names "subhumans," "ghouls," and "fiends." He went on to "damn" to "hell" those who use the term "death panels." Olbermann: "It’s a life panel, and damn those who call it otherwise to hell!"

yeah, you're right. olberman sounds very level-headed.

[Riot]

Olbermann may have joined one of the factions I talked about (no, I wasn't saying it was not on both sides, read what I wrote, again) He cursed them out. Cursing them on air isn't right, especially this week, I agree (I haven't seen it)

He is correct in that it's an outright lie.

I'm not as upset with Palin's bullseye map as others are - she was jumped upon as she's a trail-blazing idiot. I am more upset with her death panel lie itself (because it did get people angry and aggressive over a lie) and her "pallin' around with terrorists".

I was re-reading "Game Change" (while waiting for Ron Reagan Jrs new book this week on his father) and it described McCain, when he was addressing that horribly angry mob of a town call, knew he couldn't put that genie of hate back in the bottle again, and regretted it.

Worse than Palin, but ignored pretty much last week, was Michelle Bachmann's, "I need you armed and dangerous", Angle's, "second amendment remedies". The "gather your armies" ad. Shooting a target with Giffords initials on it (that was done in Arizona). The "President Obama is the worse president ever and someone has to go to Washington and knock some sense" ad.

The two years of calling the President of the United States a marxist, socialist, communist non-citizen muslim non-American who is hell bent upon taking our country down crap. "You lie".

It's most certainly not "equal on both sides" right now, nor since 2008.

I watched Christiana Amanpour's town hall this am (where the victim told the Tea Party leader "you're dead") Yes, the victim Fuller absolutely should have been taken into custody, and he's under involuntary mental hold right now, which is where he belongs.

He sounded odd earlier this week - he left the shooting scene himself, he immediately called out the Tea Party aggressively Tuesday, etc. I wonder what psychological counseling was offered by the hospital, if he declined it?

But geeshus, they had all the people and victims who were at the scene there, recounting how it went down, crying, talking about how it felt to get shot, describing the horror, and putting themselves right back in that moment - this goes on for half an hour, then they start talking gun control. A lady describes her 16 year fight for gun control (her son was killed by a deranged madman with a Glock and a large clip)

Then, while the injured are sitting there, they were describing doing CPR, and the bleeding, and the dead child, Tucson Tea Party leader Trent Humphries gets up and tells them all they are being political and they need to stop talking gun control.

You can see the whole audience turn against him, and you hear the angry groan. You can see him look at Fuller when Fuller turns around and says, "you're dead". The police took Fuller away later.

But Humphries is a grandstanding idiot (don't forget he'd been active with this community during the whole past election season, and it wasn't pretty)

They also arrested a former GOP fringe candidate for Congress in Indiana yesterday, for making threats to judges and others on her Facebook page. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_809596.html That's good. Arrest them all. Let them have a mental health screening ordered by a judge. Let the FBI come talk to them about their intent.

[Danzig]

it's not that i'm upset with the palin bullseye map...i just thought if ironic that months and months after coming out with it, she and her oompa loompas made the claim that they were surveyor marks, not crosshairs. that's bull. she didn't mind the map and making her stupid don't retreat, reload comments until she got fingers pointed at her after the shooting. do i think a crackpot cracks due to a politician? no. do i think everyone could make a better attempt at sticking to issues, rather than taking cheap shots? absolutely. the ugly comments, the name calling, the accusations of hating your country, or being a nazi, is ridiculous. pandering to emotions is a cheap ploy.

and i also find it ironic that palin is getting painted with the broad brush she had no problem wielding against her opponents! live by the sword, die by the sword i guess.

and as for it being on both sides, bush got plenty of name calling from his opponents while in office, remember? it was just as ugly then.

[Riot]

it's not that i'm upset with the palin bullseye map...i just thought if ironic that months and months after coming out with it, she and her oompa loompas made the claim that they were surveyor marks, not crosshairs.

Yeah, she forgot she bragged it was a bullseye herself?

that's bull. she didn't mind the map and making her stupid don't retreat, reload comments until she got fingers pointed at her after the shooting.

Oh, yeah, Palin likes ginning up that anger, but sure doesn't want to be on the receiving end of her own political style.

I'm gonna watch Palin on Hannity Monday night for her I Ended My Political Career, Help Me Sean cleanup attempt. It can be a drinking game, every time she blames the media for something, or plays a victim card - drink!

If there really is a toning down of rhetoric on all sides after this, we all win.

Edit: oh, yeah: See KGUN.com

Trent Humphries says there is another innocent victim left by Jared Lee Loughner's killing of six people and wounding of 14 others in his assassination attempt against Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords. It is his Tea Party movement and, more particularly, his family.

Victim? You world-class whining loser, you are not dead.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

And I'm gonna have to throw your silly immature gfy back in your face. You make the additional point that some people apparently don't have the intelligence to debate issues without turning to personal attack.
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I'm being nice since Nov when the Repubs had a historic victory... but...


the Irony of the quoted text is toooo much.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it was tongue and cheek is your defense?

problem is with his talk of killing moore, much like things on here, you lose much in translation. i don't listen to glenn beck, nor will i. i just know i saw something written about what he'd said. when it was mentioned on here that beck was anti-violence, i googled the story. now, explain to me how anyone who reads that would know it wasn't serious? that's a rhetorical question, as you can't explain it.

it's funny that either side is calling out the other, asking for kinder and gentler. politicians like nothing more than to accuse their opponent of being everything short of the devil incarnate. then, pols like to try to take the high road in denouncing the other party. anyone saying that only the left-or right- needs to clean up their acts really has blinkers on.

Michael Moore is probably the 2nd biggest douchebag on entire planet next to Osama bin Laden.

He shouldnt be killed, but Gitmo would be a good spot for him.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Both sides? Yes - because Keith Olbermann and Barney Frank are well-known for calling for people to be killed, for saying our government may have to be overthrown, and calling for citizens to be armed and dangerous

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DRF notes: Blinkers On

[Antitrust32]

The greatest example for getting rid of Political Correctness is our very own Riot.


A republican farted today.

Riot: Thats an insult to everyone with Irritable Bowel Syndrome.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

DRF notes: Blinkers On

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I'm being nice since Nov when the Repubs had a historic victory... but...

the Irony of the quoted text is toooo much.

Please, feel free to quote all the times I've been the initiator cursing or swearing at someone on DT.

And you and Riley can post all the stuff you can find in the last 3 years or so, about Democrats calling for people to be killed, for saying our government may have to be overthrown, and calling for citizens to be armed and dangerous. Fox News hasn't been able to come up with it. I'm sure you'll do better. Maintaining it's "equal" is beyond absurd, to anyone watching the political show.

BTW, the Palin-Hannity drinking game was pretty easy: Palin forgot she lied and called the marks on her PAC map "surveyors symbols", and went right back to calling them bullseyes. And she blamed the "mainstream media" for all her troubles within 3 minutes. DRINK.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you and Riley can post all the stuff you can find in the last 3 years or so, about Democrats calling for people to be killed, for saying our government may have to be overthrown, and calling for citizens to be armed and dangerous..

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you and Riley can post all the stuff you can find in the last 3 years or so, about Democrats calling for people to be killed, for saying our government may have to be overthrown, and calling for citizens to be armed and dangerous.

You ask and you shall receive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFlSrlS-vtM

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he calls for non-violence? hmm....


Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing [filmmaker] Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

From the May 17 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I'm thinking. I'm thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I'm wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus -- band -- Do, and I've lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, "Yeah, I'd kill Michael Moore," and then I'd see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I'd realize, "Oh, you wouldn't kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn't choke him to death." And you know, well, I'm not sure.

Can you guess the year?







2010? nope













2009 ? nope












2008? nope















2007? come on it has to be ........

















2006 ? guess again

















2005? winner !!!




If Beck's words have caused so much violence there should be a huge list of dead victims since 2005 right? nope




Did you know since Beck 2005 show over 400+ people have died from lightening?






and 900+ from sky diving?






Aircraft Crashes? like 6000




Septicemia ? over 2,000,000 people








and yet Michael Moore lives

[GenuineRisk]

Sssh. Everyone is so angry. Sssshhh. Here. This will make everyone feel better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMep...layer_embedded

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Seriously? You're still getting punked by that picture?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

If Beck's words have caused so much violence there should be a huge list of dead victims since 2005 right? nope

Just those documented crazy people going after public figures, saying they listened to Beck and he influenced them, like the guy caught on the way to kill folks at the Tides Foundation, as Glenn Beck recommended on his show:
http://mediamatters.org/research/201101130002

Glenn isn't pesonally responsible for these folks. But he is responsible, having a public forum, to realize that his verbal attacks on people and public calls for action could be taken very, very seriously by the crazy. You know, like Bill O'Reilly repeatedly calling a particular physician a baby killer, saying someone should take him out - and dang, if someone didn't do exactly that.

Glenn Beck is a shock jock, who knows how to rile his audience up for ratings. The President is a racist, people should be killed, the world is ending and buy gold, yak, yak, yak. He excels at scaring old white people.

Beck lost all his "real" advertisers with the racist comments. He's free to speak, and America is free to respond.

Did you buy your gold yet, Geeker? Have you purchased your dehydrated meals so your family will not starve during the apocalypse?

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Just those documented crazy people going after public figures, saying they listened to Beck and he influenced them, like the guy caught on the way to kill folks at the Tides Foundation, as Glenn Beck recommended on his show:
http://mediamatters.org/research/201101130002

Glenn isn't pesonally responsible for these folks. But he is responsible, having a public forum, to realize that his verbal attacks on people and public calls for action could be taken very, very seriously by the crazy. You know, like Bill O'Reilly repeatedly calling a particular physician a baby killer, saying someone should take him out - and dang, if someone didn't do exactly that.

Glenn Beck is a shock jock, who knows how to rile his audience up for ratings. The President is a racist, people should be killed, the world is ending and buy gold, yak, yak, yak. He excels at scaring old white people.

Beck lost all his "real" advertisers with the racist comments. He's free to speak, and America is free to respond.

Did you buy your gold yet, Geeker? Have you purchased your dehydrated meals so your family will not starve during the apocalypse?

If you bought gold back when Beck first suggested you would have quadrupled your money!