Shake You Down - Page 2

Linny · #1 02-14-2007, 06:53 AM

You can sell or give away a horse w/ no papers but many "post race" homes (not nessessarily in SYDs case) WANT papers. They want to have a verifyable record of who the horse is. Within the show/sporthorse realms, pedigree and papers have become very important.

I'd like the JC to honor the wishes of owners who want to sell or give away a horse with papers that the animal will never return to racing.

Kasept · #2 02-14-2007, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

got my newest bloodhorse, and guess who they had an article about? cole. and shake you down is mentioned in there, as is a 'national radio show' that gave him a hard time. hmm, wonder who that could be?

Well.. there's only one 'national radio show' about horse racing that I'm aware of, so I have an idea... Will have to ask the author of the piece, who I understand wasn't keen on doing it, about the specifics...

#3 02-13-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny

The JC has no designation in their database for nonracing, papered TB's. papers make him eleigible. If someone marks them before selling a horse and that horse fall into the "wrong hands" down the line the "wrong" person needs only to request new papers of the JC and presto! instant RACEhorse.

Sold without papers... so the JC won't issue new ones

Thoroughbred Fan · #4 02-13-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Samm

Sold without papers... so the JC won't issue new ones

That is what I said, as a horse owner. Someone here insinuated they could get new papers. Not true only the owner of record with the jockey club can get new papers. You can sell a horse without the appropriate Jockey Club notification if it is for hunting, leisure riding, etc....

The new owners can not get papers without your consent!

LARHAGE · #5 02-14-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Samm

Sold without papers... so the JC won't issue new ones

Thats what I thought, a few years ago we got a beautiful black Thoroughbred from Bobby Frankel, he wouldn't release the papers to be sure the horse never ran again, too bad as he would have crossed beautifully with Warmblood mares, he went to a great home as a hunter and dressage prospect. As in all breeds if the horses are sold without papers, you can not simply ask for new ones, the owner on record has to have a transfer of ownership signed and dated.

Linny · #6 02-14-2007, 11:50 AM

The point is that the papers make horses eligible for certain other registries. Mares w/TB papers are eligible for certain warmblood registries' main books etc. For many folks outside the racing world, those papers are important. They prove age, parentage and provide a history of the animal's whereabouts. The problem is that since the JC will replaced marked papers the only way to keep a horse away from racing is to destroy the papers. Trainers who are doing so are doing it for a good reason, yet they may be doing a disservice (indirectly) to the horse, or future owners.

If the JC would acknowledge the "NON RACING" designation (ie, honor the racing owner's wishes) then the horse could keep his or her papers and still never be able to race again.

#7 03-28-2007, 10:43 AM

http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/56628syd.jpg

went to a correctional facility in marion county florida....

Cajungator26 · #8 03-28-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Samm

http://img11.imagepile.net/img11/56628syd.jpg

went to a correctional facility in marion county florida....

Yeah, it was posted. I'm so glad that he finally gets to rest. It was pretty evident that the horse was done with racing. I hope he has a good time just being a horse.

#9 03-28-2007, 10:48 AM

Well this should be an easy transition for him.

PPerfectfan · #10 03-28-2007, 11:01 AM

Well I had not seen it, so I am very happy. Have fun SYD!

Seattleallstar · #11 03-28-2007, 12:36 PM

I hope SYD doesnt drop the soap in there..lol