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Old 03-15-2017, 06:56 PM
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Steve, next time you have Forntale would it be possible to ask him what is up with NHC Qualify or DRF Tournaments not having NHC Qualifiers? Do they plan to? Right now it seems only HT.com has them, DW may, but not as many. Just odd when they want to grow the NHC that they haven't even used the platform that usually gave the most qualifiers each year...

Or maybe you already know the answer? It could have been asked at some point, I need to catch up on some podcasts.

I personally much prefer HT.com, but I was just curious what the deal was..
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Old 03-15-2017, 07:18 PM
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Ken.

I can answer a bit. Word was in Vegas that they weren't renewing all elements of the long-running sponsorship deal. Seems things are still undefined for '17. Will bring it up with Pete but not sure how much he can say.
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Old 03-15-2017, 07:22 PM
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I can answer a bit. Word was in Vegas that they weren't renewing all elements of the long-running sponsorship deal. Seems things are still undefined for '17. Will bring it up with Pete but not sure how much he can say.
Do you mean the DRF sponsoring the NHC?
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Old 03-16-2017, 07:51 AM
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My understanding is that DRF is out of the NHC completely. Their "sponsorship" never really amounted to anything as they never contributed to the prize pool. Horsetourneys will be the main on-line source now.

Not sure what led to the breakup. DRF made lots of money holding qualifiers and will not make nearly the same offering HPWS spots instead. NTRA will lose the spotlight that Pete and DRF brought to it. Seems that both sides lose in this deal.

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My understanding is that DRF is out of the NHC completely. Their "sponsorship" never really amounted to anything as they never contributed to the prize pool. Horsetourneys will be the main on-line source now.

Not sure what led to the breakup. DRF made lots of money holding qualifiers and will not make nearly the same offering HPWS spots instead. NTRA will lose the spotlight that Pete and DRF brought to it. Seems that both sides lose in this deal.

Paul
Financial elements aside, Crist/DRF's contribution to the founding of the event, the publicity provided by DRF during its' growth and the Handicapper of the Year Eclipse to the winner feels like amounting to something to me. Also, ATR featuring Pete, NHC, tour/players/winners the last few years is only a result of DRF, but maybe that's been an insignificant contribution. Not to mention ATR broadcasting the event live for 20+ hours the last 3 years.

Yes.. Everybody loses.
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Old 03-16-2017, 10:30 AM
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Let's not forget about the BCBC online qualifiers as those seem to have disappeared completely as well now from the online realm, which I think is more of a loss.

I've tried to reach out a few times to see where these will turn up, hopefully a resolution will come soon for that too
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Financial elements aside, Crist/DRF's contribution to the founding of the event, the publicity provided by DRF during its' growth and the Handicapper of the Year Eclipse to the winner feels like amounting to something to me. Also, ATR featuring Pete, NHC, tour/players/winners the last few years is only a result of DRF, but maybe that's been an insignificant contribution. Not to mention ATR broadcasting the event live for 20+ hours the last 3 years.

Yes.. Everybody loses.
Does this mean ATR would NOT cover the event any longer?
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