Jockey Colonies -- few real good ones are out there

[iamthelurker]

There's no question New York's current jockey colony is very talented but I do wonder how they would have stacked up against the NY colonies of the 1980's and 1990's.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

This would actually make an interesting topic.

I've seen a few people cut up Presque Isle's lately, but objectively speaking, they might be a borderline top 5 jockey colony.

Francisco Torres couldn't get anything going at PID, and he left for Arlington Park and was leading rider at Arlington in 2012 by both total wins and win percentage.

Taylor Rice had the bug here last year, and was just 9-for-90. She went to Hawthorne and was 41-for-196 (21% wins) $2.34 ROI and she even did OK in New York until she lost her bug.

Scott Spieth goes to Cleveland and rides Thistle Downs on PID's dark days. He's 27-for-79 (34% wins) $2.10 ROI at Thistle. Meanwhile, Speith is just 7th in the standings at PID, winning at 13% with a $1.00 ROI

Deshawn Parker is the king-pin at Mountaineer, year in and year out. He's winning 27% at MNR this year...he rides PID on the MNR's dark days and is just 12% at PID. Last year he was 34-for-403 (8% wins) at PID, while utterly dominating MNR's standings.

The leading rider at Tampa Bay Downs this year was Antiono Gallardo (122-for-422) 27% wins. Ronnie Allen JR. was 2nd in the standings at 22% wins. Daniel Centeno was 3rd.

By comparison, Gallardo is also the leading rider at PID, but with just 21% wins. Ronnie Allen is 3rd in the standings at PID, and with just 17% wins. Meanwhile, Centeno is the leading rider at Delaware Park.

Willie Martinez is currently 9th in the standings at PID 24-for-195 (12% wins) and he won a Breeders' Cup Sprint with Trinniberg, not too long ago.

Obviously, New York and California are 1-2 by a long way. Monmouth Park is a one man show. Paco Lopez (120 wins) has more than double the next guy (54)

Churchill's running a mini meet and is 3rd best. Edgard Zayas, a guy who hasn't even been riding for 3 years is absolutely dominating Gulfstream's standings over Ramsey Zimmerman...he was a very good Remington and EVD jock, but ran into drug problems and hard times.

There really are few good ones left out there.

from what i recall, Torres usually does well in Chicago b/c he's close to or is first call from Midwest, seems like he rides more for them at Hawthorne then Arlington.
both Gallardo and Allen are 1-2 for Midwest at TBD as Dan mentioned.
Cenento, there is a guy who use to be money at TBD, owned that track, him an carlos montolvo. I thought Centeno did well up in MTH, but he lost value on a lot of rides once the north found out about him.
Speith, beating up on anything OHIO shouldn't be a feather in anyone's cap, but the guy usually burns me pretty good at TBD on the lawn for some reason.
Also as Dan mentioned, Deshawn simply doesn't get mounts at TBD, and it's really confusing. The guy is usually at the top of the list every year for wins, but if you see him on 1 maybe 2 mounts a day its a miracle, and usually even those aren't "live"

How about a little love for them cajuns? I think FG seems to have a decent colony