Acorn 6-10-6 Belmont, race 9 ,3yo F

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Exceller Liberty tripped out last time and barely got by a horse who isnt much, Win McCool. Shes never been farther than 7F and looks like a big bounce candidate as well. Lemem ask you something ok? How do you think that horse would have fared in the Oaks? Think she would have been in the top 6? I think not. The Oaks had a hard pace because it was contested by at least 3 horses at all points in the race, and from the turn on by about 6 across the track. When horses are all out running with and between a lot of other good horses, its gonna be a tough race. I'm thinking Hello Liberty and WIn McCool wouldnt ahve hung around to even teh turn in the Oaks.

They are only running a mile tomorrow. Hello Liberty looks like she might be the fastest horse in there and she wins races. I only like Ermine better. If I was you I would like WLA too but a clear headed person sees she is less likely than Hello Liberty. Add in a little moisture in the track and she is even more likely.

Originally Posted by Exceller

They are only running a mile tomorrow. Hello Liberty looks like she might be the fastest horse in there and she wins races. I only like Ermine better. If I was you I would like WLA too but a clear headed person sees she is less likely than Hello Liberty.

Exceller, grow a brain will you? Or at least read my earlier posts on this thread. I said it was a hard race and that emotion had no place in analyzing a race. I always analyze races objectively. I can tell you right now that Hello Liberty has no chance and was one of my only 3 tossouts in the race. If you were me? Oh, I see, you have a fasttrack to whats inside my head.
I like the Oaks horses here, I think they are the contenders. WOuld you like WIn McCool in this spot as well? because thats who liberty was life and death to beat in the last start. She also ran a lifetime best, and figures to regress. Liberty is taking a huge jump up, and the oaks hosrse are making a lateral move. Im including all the oaks horses, Teammate, and Adieu. No Liberty for me.

Originally Posted by Exceller

They are only running a mile tomorrow. Hello Liberty looks like she might be the fastest horse in there and she wins races. I only like Ermine better. If I was you I would like WLA too but a clear headed person sees she is less likely than Hello Liberty. Add in a little moisture in the track and she is even more likely.

Oh yeah, and she beat the Mighty Swap Fliparoo last time, lol.

okay, i think i'll have to include adieu, second back from the layoff ran 7.5f in her first back in 128.18, add 6, thats 134.18
and thats racin time, even if you add 7, you have 135.18 and taht is still good, sepcially for the fillies.

i think i will skip the 11 race and go with a pick 3 ticket instead.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Exceller, grow a brain will you? Or at least read my earlier posts on this thread. I said it was a hard race and that emotion had no place in analyzing a race. I always analyze races objectively. I can tell you right now that Hello Liberty has no chance and was one of my only 3 tossouts in the race. If you were me? Oh, I see, you have a fasttrack to whats inside my head.
I like the Oaks horses here, I think they are the contenders. WOuld you like WIn McCool in this spot as well? because thats who liberty was life and death to beat in the last start. She also ran a lifetime best, and figures to regress. Liberty is taking a huge jump up, and the oaks hosrse are making a lateral move. Im including all the oaks horses, Teammate, and Adieu. No Liberty for me.

Sure I will grow a brain. You bet with other peoples money so it is easy to pick anyone you want. "Sweat Equity" is that what they call it. LOL. If you are are so good why don't you use your own money? I use my own money when I bet and buy into horses. I still like Ermine but Hello Liberty ran a huge figure on this track and seems to want more distance. I remember her shifting to the rail and then reeling in that other filly. She would have won by 5 at 8F. Hello Liberty has 4 wins in 7 starts. You are handicapping a 10F race, I am looking at an 8f race. Hello Liberty has a legit shot to beat Ermine.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Oh yeah, and she beat the Mighty Swap Fliparoo last time, lol.

Doesn't matter who was in the race, she won in a time that puts her at the top of this field over the same track.

Originally Posted by Exceller

Doesn't matter who was in the race, she won in a time that puts her at the top of this field over the same track.

on tgraph both these horses look similar,
ermine is cutting back from her last 3 of, 9f,8.5f, and 8.5f
place, win win

liberty is stretching out
last three, 7f, 6f,5.5f
win win place..

liberty is a good sprinter, this is 1 turn over 8f,

i like the fact the other is shortening as opposed to lenghening.
besides these two might not even be a part of it its sooo deep.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Secretariat

on tgraph both these horses look similar,
ermine is cutting back from her last 3 of, 9f,8.5f, and 8.5f
place, win win

liberty is stretching out
last three, 7f, 6f,5.5f
win win place..

liberty is a good sprinter, this is 1 turn over 8f,

i like the fact the other is shortening as opposed to lenghening.
besides these two might not even be a part of it its sooo deep.

I think it comes down to whether you think Hello Liberty is improving or will bounce. I say she is improving. Looks like she wanted a little more distance in the last. I still think Ermine will catch her, but I like those two based on the figures.

Originally Posted by Secretariat

on tgraph both these horses look similar,
ermine is cutting back from her last 3 of, 9f,8.5f, and 8.5f
place, win win

liberty is stretching out
last three, 7f, 6f,5.5f
win win place..

liberty is a good sprinter, this is 1 turn over 8f,

i like the fact the other is shortening as opposed to lenghening.
besides these two might not even be a part of it its sooo deep.

Exceller my point is that its quite arrogant for you to think you know how I analyze a race or why. Its why i told you about what i felt the knocks were on Liberty. Bet whoever you want, its a horserace.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Exceller my point is that its quite arrogant for you to think you know how I analyze a race or why. Its why i told you about what i felt the knocks were on Liberty. Bet whoever you want, its a horserace.

I agree. I would be lying if I said I was rooting for your horse when I will be betting other horses, but if I don't win I hope your horse does.

Originally Posted by Exceller

I agree. I would be lying if I said I was rooting for your horse when I will be betting other horses, but if I don't win I hope your horse does.

Spoken like a gentleman. Thats how most people feel about a race. If my horse is dead in the lane, I always root for a freind's if he is in contention. If I can't win, I want someone I like to win.

Teammate is my choice.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Teammate is my choice.

Mine too.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Exceller Liberty tripped out last time and barely got by a horse who isnt much, Win McCool. Shes never been farther than 7F and looks like a big bounce candidate as well. Lemem ask you something ok? How do you think that horse would have fared in the Oaks? Think she would have been in the top 6? I think not. The Oaks had a hard pace because it was contested by at least 3 horses at all points in the race, and from the turn on by about 6 across the track. When horses are all out running with and between a lot of other good horses, its gonna be a tough race. I'm thinking Hello Liberty and WIn McCool wouldnt ahve hung around to even teh turn in the Oaks.

Look who I just saw in tomorrow's entires and has a shot at a grade 1 this weekend. The "horse who isnt much", Win McCool. Hello Liberty ran pretty well against Bushfire too. I guess you were wrong on this one.