What are your thoughts on Uncle Mo's Returning Race? - Page 2

Dahoss · #21 03-12-2011, 10:30 PM

Make it stop.

somerfrost · #22 03-12-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

The draw is public and cant be and Pletcher cant control how other trainers instruct their riders but he can say something to track officials and they can influence trainers and jockeys. Try by denying stable applications, not letting jockeys ride there, writing horses out of races etc etc. Theres plenty of things tracks can do to influence races

This is insane, Uncle Mo simply towered over the field, other trainers were running for minor shares and they approached the race thusly, challenging him early was seen as suicidal. Did anyone really expect this to be a tough race for Uncle Mo?

The Indomitable DrugS · #23 03-12-2011, 10:36 PM

It's a dark day when somerfrost is a voice of reason.

parsixfarms · #24 03-12-2011, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If Pletcher can control how other trainers are to instruct their riders and other riders are to ride their opposing mounts ... why did he not order the post positions re-drawn after Uncle Mo drew the rail?

If I recall correctly, Derek Ryan believes in this theory.

NTamm1215 · #25 03-12-2011, 11:28 PM

Instead of trying to convince trainers how to have their horses run in the Timely Writer the management at GP probably offered to muck their stalls just for getting four horses to line up against Uncle Mo.

#26 03-12-2011, 11:35 PM

F-

The connections should be banned for life. If the sport fails for kicking out the hundred or so cowards ruining the sport then so be it.

DaTruth · #27 03-12-2011, 11:59 PM

Gulfstream should have classed up the race by making it an invitational.

King Glorious · #28 03-13-2011, 03:19 AM

If I had only heard about Uncle Mo and had never seen him run and this was my first time, I would be wondering what all the hype was about. This race, if you want to call it that, was not impressive at all. I don't care that he came home under 23 seconds. What else was he supposed to do after those first three fractions. Fortunately for Pletcher, this horse's 2yo form was so far beyond his classmates that he doesn't even need to improve on it to dominate this group. This was a good workout and nothing more. Not impressed at all.

johnny pinwheel · #29 03-13-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

I thought the race was a fukking joke, the horse bobbles at the start and nobody knew what to do because there were strict instructions given by officials that Uncle Mo gets it his own way or else face consequences. 26 opening quarter, the race was a farce if you can even call it a race

yup, one of these horses at the harness track would of been more challanging. one of my friends at simulcast thought the other horses were waiting for him after he missed the break....gulfstreams version of the WWE....plus, thats going to help him when someone dishes out a 46 half in a real race.......

Thunder Gulch · #30 03-13-2011, 08:58 AM

I really don't know what anyone expected yesterday. The race went just like it was supposed to. The fact that the slugs wouldn't press early doesn't change the fact that they were outclassed. And I don't understand why anyone was even looking to be overly impressed. It was what we thought it was- a paid workout designed to get a little racing under his belt and set him up for a legit prep in a month.

Danzig · #31 03-13-2011, 09:27 AM

it wasn't a race, but a workout. not sure how it moved him forward at all to may. can't help wondering if overconfidence will be their undoing.
the plan with this horse illustrates perfectly why graded earnings at 2 should be removed from derby starter consideration.

jms62 · #32 03-13-2011, 10:25 AM

The only thing it accomplished for me is that now I have an owner I dislike more than IEAH.

outofthebox · #33 03-13-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

yup, one of these horses at the harness track would of been more challanging. one of my friends at simulcast thought the other horses were waiting for him after he missed the break....gulfstreams version of the WWE....plus, thats going to help him when someone dishes out a 46 half in a real race.......

your right about the other riders waiting on him. It was their oppurtunity to cross over and kick some dirt in his face.

freddymo · #34 03-13-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Make it stop.

This is precious stuff, it's better then drinking, this guy could save my liver untold damage.

OTM Al · #35 03-13-2011, 11:08 AM

War Pass had a better comeback race in his one turn mile....

If this horse does not come to New York and instead stays in Florida I'm guessing something is wrong.

MisterB · #36 03-13-2011, 12:01 PM

He really built a good bottom in this paid public work out. A good quarter horse would have given him trouble, since that's all it was.

The Indomitable DrugS · #37 03-13-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OTM Al

War Pass had a better comeback race in his one turn mile.....

Couldn't possibly disagree more with you on this one.

War Pass was more loose on the lead in his comeback - faced even worse competition if you can believe that - and ran at a much, much more efficent rate of speed for producing a good final time.

N1X for 3yo fillies: 46.55 half mile - 1:37.07 final time
War Pass: 46.72 half mile - 1:36.38 final time

War Pass ran his final quarter mile in 24.48 and won "driving" according to the chart... though it probably should have been labeled ridden out.

I doubt War Pass was capable of being able to run as slowly as Uncle Mo did for the first 6fs yesterday.

Merlinsky · #38 03-13-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

The only thing it accomplished for me is that now I have an owner I dislike more than IEAH.

Did Repole run over your puppy or something?

NTamm1215 · #39 03-13-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Did Repole run over your puppy or something?

Really. I certainly didn't like Uncle Mo going to the Timely Writer but comparing Repole to IEAH is crazy. A story that escaped a great deal of attention is that IEAH's Ruffian Equine Medical Center is currently closed and "re-structuring" for a May re-opening. They are scum.

freddymo · #40 03-13-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Really. I certainly didn't like Uncle Mo going to the Timely Writer but comparing Repole to IEAH is crazy. A story that escaped a great deal of attention is that IEAH's Ruffian Equine Medical Center is currently closed and "re-structuring" for a May re-opening. They are scum.

Repole is just a character, comparing him to IEAH is fn stupid. If you like his personna or not racing could use 20 more Repole type owners. The world needs to be devoid of IEAH vermin, they have no place on this earth nevermind racing.