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Old 08-17-2010, 05:40 PM
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Before I was just asking you how you would approach handicapping the race knowing that its a short run into the first turn. With the stats so against the outside posts, did you still bet the 9?
If the 9 in that race was breaking from posts 1 through 5 he would have been a near cinch. He had the best last race Beyer in the entire field - and the most early speed in the field.

However, because he had post 9, even with all closers to his inside - you basically had to hope he was ridden very aggressively. Which he was.

All meet long, jockeys aren't gunning horses early in routes. So - it would have been a tricky call. You bet at 13/1 and the rider bides his time, gets hung wide, and you're off the board. You don't bet at 13/1 and you watch him gun him - get a loose early lead - and win by a city block.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:42 PM
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Bite me gopher man.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:43 PM
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Bite me gopher man.
Vic?
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:44 PM
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RHT had a win bet on the 1 and 2 that race. He told me.
I dont bet PID.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:44 PM
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I'm not GopherMan!!
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:45 PM
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I'm not GopherMan!!
Would you like Wolfman better?
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:49 PM
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ZOMG! The one went wire to wire in the 4th! 9-1!
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:57 PM
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ZOMG! The one went wire to wire in the 4th! 9-1!
Yep - got a loose lead from post 1 and paid $20.80 winning by about 5 lengths.

Two races at a mile so far, and two easy wire-to-wire longshot winners.
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Old 08-17-2010, 06:01 PM
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Good stuff man, another mile race in the 5th, who you like?
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:22 PM
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Would you like Wolfman better?

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Carla?
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:29 PM
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:36 PM
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you 2 are cracking me up.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:23 PM
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A recap of how the early leader at the first call did today at PID:

* Race #1: Pace setter finishes 3rd at 120/1 odds in a field of 10.

* Race #2: Pace setter wins by 9 lengths and pays $28.80 to win

* Race #3: Pace setter finishes 2nd at 9/1 in field of 9.

* Race #4: Pace setter wins by 5 lengths and pays $20.80 to win

* Race #5: Pace setter runs 2nd at 6/1 odds in a field of 9.

* Race #6: Pace setter 4th at 6/1 odds in field of 8

* Race #7: Pace setter wins by 7 lengths and pays $7.80

* Race #8: Pace setter wins by 3.5 lengths and pays $49.60

4 of the 8 races won wire-to-wire in blowout fashion - 3 of them by longshots.

Of the 4 races run at one mile, two went to Post #1, one went to Post #2, and the other went to a horse who cleared the entire field in about 8 jumps despite starting from the 9 hole.

But yeah, The Fat Man will tell you that DIRT has unfair SPEED biases and is a BAD surface .. but synthetic is like God's surface because racing is so FAIR on it.
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Old 08-17-2010, 08:39 PM
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you 2 are cracking me up.
Lurker-poo isn't going to understand Drugs' post.



Just thayin'.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:37 PM
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Just thayin'.
Lurker maybe should lurk at some bowling alleys. I don't think horsey racing is his thing.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:45 PM
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A recap of how the early leader at the first call did today at PID:

* Race #1: Pace setter finishes 3rd at 120/1 odds in a field of 10.

* Race #2: Pace setter wins by 9 lengths and pays $28.80 to win

* Race #3: Pace setter finishes 2nd at 9/1 in field of 9.

* Race #4: Pace setter wins by 5 lengths and pays $20.80 to win

* Race #5: Pace setter runs 2nd at 6/1 odds in a field of 9.

* Race #6: Pace setter 4th at 6/1 odds in field of 8

* Race #7: Pace setter wins by 7 lengths and pays $7.80

* Race #8: Pace setter wins by 3.5 lengths and pays $49.60

4 of the 8 races won wire-to-wire in blowout fashion - 3 of them by longshots.

Of the 4 races run at one mile, two went to Post #1, one went to Post #2, and the other went to a horse who cleared the entire field in about 8 jumps despite starting from the 9 hole.

But yeah, The Fat Man will tell you that DIRT has unfair SPEED biases and is a BAD surface .. but synthetic is like God's surface because racing is so FAIR on it.
The real question is, why do you even care what that blowhard thinks, or says?
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Old 08-17-2010, 10:26 PM
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Lurker maybe should lurk at some bowling alleys. I don't think horsey racing is his thing.
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Why do they put hangers in the stretch????
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Old 08-17-2010, 10:56 PM
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Why do they put hangers in the stretch????
Why do they put hangers on mufflers????
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:34 PM
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The lack of pace figures for PID is annoying me.
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