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Old 08-10-2010, 05:14 PM
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Default What Is The Fairest Turf Course?

I was thinking about this yesterday for some reason. Any ideas? I don't know that I follow enough tracks closely enough to know how each one plays.

But in terms of fair to all types, no wacky turns etc...

I guess of the ones I follow, I might go with Arlington. Woodbine might be close if the stretch wasn't so long....Churchill is up there. Maybe Belmont outer.
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:17 PM
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I was thinking about this yesterday for some reason. Any ideas? I don't know that I follow enough tracks closely enough to know how each one plays.

But in terms of fair to all types, no wacky turns etc...

I guess of the ones I follow, I might go with Arlington. Woodbine might be close if the stretch wasn't so long....Churchill is up there. Maybe Belmont outer.
I dont think of CD as that fair considering the course plays a lot differently with the rais up or down. Tampa is pretty consistent. AP is a great course but they often get crazy about the temp rail too.
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:20 PM
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I dont think of CD as that fair considering the course plays a lot differently with the rais up or down. Tampa is pretty consistent. AP is a great course but they often get crazy about the temp rail too.
Yeah I consider CD to be in the 2nd tier somewhere I would say. And yes temp rails screw up fairness but on big days they are always down.
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:48 PM
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Always Down? The last three Millions they cut the turf course in half and had temp rails. The other turf races are run on the inner and the three big races are run on the outer
Usually down I guess I don't follow ARL close enough to know. I can't see other than drainage problems having the rail out. I know how it is in NY on big days.
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:49 PM
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Usually down I guess I don't follow ARL close enough to know. I can't see other than drainage problems having the rail out. I know how it is in NY on big days.
I thought you were speaking in terms of Arl's because that is what Chuck was talking about. All good
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:51 PM
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I thought you were speaking in terms of Arl's because that is what Chuck was talking about. All good
You should be happy. I think your local track has the fairest turf course. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:21 PM
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WO by a long margin. It's tough as hell to figure out but no cheap winners on it.

Once upon a time it was the two BEL courses (especially the wider) but no more. And, SAR this year is playing more and more like the Southern Cal courses. When sprinters are able to stretch and consistently beat routers, there's a problem.

Other fair courses are GG, CRC, and TAM.
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:25 PM
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Fairgrounds.
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:37 PM
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Fairgrounds.
I agree with this. Would be in my Top 3
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Old 08-10-2010, 06:44 PM
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even though most of you have never seen it, Turf Paradise has a great Turf Course and it doesn't look bad after the meets over with.
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:00 PM
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I agree with this. Would be in my Top 3
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:23 PM
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As I scroll through this thread, I am thinking, "Fairgrounds is not on this list."

And then you agree with Mort.

Funny.
Forgot about it at first. But yes they would be towards the top.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:47 PM
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As I scroll through this thread, I am thinking, "Fairgrounds is not on this list."

And then you agree with Mort.

Funny.

You'll get there...given the advances in modern medical technology----and so forth.
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Old 08-10-2010, 08:02 PM
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Fairgrounds.
That depends on how sandy it gets.
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