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Old 07-12-2010, 08:49 PM
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If Point Given can get in, does it really matter if any horse ever gets in? I mean its a joke.
A joke?
I think a person could make a reasonable argument either way on Point Given. If somebody thinks the Hall should have a very strict standard for admittance (as you apparently do) that's fine. Others might not.
Personally, I think when you compare Point Given to the horses of his era he stacks up very nicely. There sure weren't a lot of 3yos in the decade before or after him that had better campaigns.
If you don't think he should be in...fine. But it is hardly as obviously wrong as you want to make it seem. Personally I think he belongs.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:50 PM
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A joke?
I think a person could make a reasonable argument either way on Point Given. If somebody thinks the Hall should have a very strict standard for admittance (as you apparently do) that's fine. Others might not.
Personally, I think when you compare Point Given to the horses of his era he stacks up very nicely. There sure weren't a lot of 3yos in the decade before or after him that had better campaigns.
If you don't think he should be in...fine. But it is hardly as obviously wrong as you want to make it seem. Personally I think he belongs.
You answered your own question. Its the Hall Of Fame. It either means something or it doesn't. You believe it doesn't. So be it.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:54 PM
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Still waiting for Leroidesanimaux or whatever it is getting in after his gutty mile
He was one hell of a turf horse.

Obviously he shouldn't come close because he's a turf horse.

It took all the way until 2008 for Manila to get in. Gio Ponti is not exactly Manila.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:55 PM
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He was one hell of a turf horse.

Obviously he shouldn't come close because he's a turf horse.

It took all the way until 2008 for Manila to get in. Gio Ponti is not exactly Manila.
Yup and he doesn't belong either.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:58 PM
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Mineshaft - now there is a horse who doesn't belong!
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You answered your own question. Its the Hall Of Fame. It either means something or it doesn't. You believe it doesn't. So be it.
In a sense you're right. I honestly don't care about who gets in and who doesn't. The HOF doesn't really interest me.
If you disagree with Point Given getting in, that's fine. I totally think you can make a very legitimate argument against him.
But I think people can make a legitimate argument for him as well.
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Mineshaft - now there is a horse who doesn't belong!
Haha, and he isn't there is he.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:00 PM
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How about A.P. Indy being inducted?
Yeah - If he got in - I think Point Given's case was very solid.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:05 PM
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Haha, and he isn't there is he.
If Deshawn Park still leads the nation in wins as a black jockey based in West Virginia .. after not riding the first two months of the year and missing enough time to cost me 10K due to breaking his foot ..... does he deserve to get in?
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:07 PM
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If Deshawn Park still leads the nation in wins as a black jockey based in West Virginia .. after not riding the first two months of the year and missing enough time to cost me 10K due to breaking his foot ..... does he deserve to get in?
...Make 10k the old fashioned way. Work.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:14 PM
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I'm not putting myself through something I don't want to do when I have no use for the money anyway.
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...Make 10k the old fashioned way. Work.

If you think winning those contests, isnt work. Think again.
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If you think winning those contests, isnt work. Think again.
Yes him sitting home, playing an online horse contest, while talking about socks and jerking off is hard work. I totally agree.
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Old 07-12-2010, 09:46 PM
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What do you want from me Joseph? To go off to some fagotty school for a long time and get hooked up with Goldman Sachs so I can try and easily out thieve the best of the scum?
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Ditch digger would suffice
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What do you want from me Joseph? To go off to some fagotty school for a long time and get hooked up with Goldman Sachs so I can try and easily out thieve the best of the scum?
You told me recently its all in good clean fun, no?
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Yup and he doesn't belong either.
Manila doesn't belong?????

I hope you were trying to imply the other horse doesn't.
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:15 PM
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Manila doesn't belong?????

I hope you were trying to imply the other horse doesn't.
GP, not Manilia
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Old 07-12-2010, 10:17 PM
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GP, not Manilia
That's good.

For a second there, I thought you were trying to wrestle away dumbest poster of the year away from a couple of Z fans.
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That's good.

For a second there, I thought you were trying to wrestle away dumbest poster of the year away from a couple of Z fans.
There's the obligatory post in this thread. Figured it wouldn't take too long.
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