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Kasept · #21 01-15-2010, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

And I was expressing an opinion that I would find it far more valuable to know up to the minute pick 6 information rather than news that you can easily get on the website that most bettors already know anyways.

Sorry for having an opinion.

Opinions in sheep's clothing.

Sightseek · #22 01-15-2010, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

It wouldn't cost NYRA a nickel to allow .50 pic-4s on its own races or to allow NYRA Rewards players to make fractional wagers on simulcast tracks (such as Gulfstream, Keeneland, FG, etc.) where such denominations are permitted.

Isn't that a Racing and Wagering board issue?

Kasept · #23 01-15-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Isn't that a Racing and Wagering board issue?

Yes.

freddymo · #24 01-15-2010, 09:27 AM

When NYRA did really suck I never remember them getting Sh.t ..Now that they have made great strides the get dogged ..I dont get it

parsixfarms · #25 01-15-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Yes.

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

parsixfarms · #26 01-15-2010, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

When NYRA did really suck I never remember them getting Sh.t ..Now that they have made great strides the get dogged ..I dont get it

I'm not anti-NYRA; I just don't understand their thinking on this issue.

freddymo · #27 01-15-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

It wouldn't cost NYRA a nickel to allow .50 pic-4s on its own races or to allow NYRA Rewards players to make fractional wagers on simulcast tracks (such as Gulfstream, Keeneland, FG, etc.) where such denominations are permitted.

Maybe since it wouldnt cost them a nickel they should allow nickel pick 4's?

Kasept · #28 01-15-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

Still need to have changes like that rubber-stamped by RWB. Though it seems it would be less of an issue now than it used to be...

freddymo · #29 01-15-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

How so? Finger Lakes allows .50 pic-4s, and all the OTBs and Saratoga Harness allow the fractional wagering on simulcast tracks.

It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

parsixfarms · #30 01-15-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Still need to have changes like that rubber-stamped by RWB. Though it seems it would be less of an issue now than it used to be...

Is that NYRA has made such a request of NYSWRB that has not been acted upon? Or is it that NYRA has made a business decision to not allow their patrons to make fractional wagers (except for the dime supers)?

johnny pinwheel · #31 01-15-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Ideally I'd like to see them be able to handle $.50 Pick 4s first.

good idea! i love that bet. i only go as far as pick 3's in ny. i've already hit a couple at gulfstream...and for 50 cents you can't beat the return. i'm starting to think its the best bet on the card!

parsixfarms · #32 01-15-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

Come on, that's a false argument. The issue for the typical player on these types of wagers is more about how much spread they can get from his or her bankroll. And by refusing to allow fractional wagers on simulcasts, NYRA is only driving that play elsewhere.

ateamstupid · #33 01-15-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

It's the best racing in the country from 4/15 thru 11/1.. It is suppose to attract a bettor willing to play a buck on a Pik 4?

That's stupid. Why do they have dime supers then?

Kasept · #34 01-15-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Is that NYRA has made such a request of NYSWRB that has not been acted upon? Or is it that NYRA has made a business decision to not allow their patrons to make fractional wagers (except for the dime supers)?

I think it's been discussed. I know they had to push for a while to get the dime supers through, as well as field size minimums in supers.

freddymo · #35 01-15-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Come on, that's a false argument. The issue for the typical player on these types of wagers is more about how much spread they can get from his or her bankroll. And by refusing to allow fractional wagers on simulcasts, NYRA is only driving that play elsewhere.

So were does it end .25 .10 .05?

ateamstupid · #36 01-15-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

So were does it end .25 .10 .05?

That's not the point, we'll cross that bridge if we come to it, but with damn near every track offering $.50 Pick 4s and their popularity increasing every day, NYRA looks like a dinosaur for not even handling them on simulcast tracks. I'm a big NYRA fan but on this issue it's silly how late they are.

johnny pinwheel · #37 01-15-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That's not the point, we'll cross that bridge if we come to it, but with damn near every track offering $.50 Pick 4s and their popularity increasing every day, NYRA looks like a dinosaur for not even handling them on simulcast tracks. I'm a big NYRA fan but on this issue it's silly how late they are.

i agree. i did not even like pick 4's, i do now. same with pick 6's, you might as well be playing the lotto, if you don't have partners. the 50 cent bet will raise the pools and handle. i think nyra is crazy to say, "we are hurting for money but a new product thats popular, well, we don't have time for it". those bets are bang for the buck, during tough times ...it will help them. during saratoga that 50 cent pick 4 would be a great bet.!!!!! look at what these things are paying at gulfstream!

hockey2315 · #38 01-15-2010, 10:11 AM

I have my own personal axe to grind with the current NYRA regime and I'd love to blame them for any and all flaws in their product, but so many of their current flaws have to do with government involvement. . . I'm sure that's why they haven't offered $0.50 Pk4s. . . every little thing has to get past the wagering board.

Kasept · #39 01-15-2010, 10:15 AM

The information regarding live tickets in P6 play is currently available on the tote system.

The New York State Racing & Wagering Board prohibits the dissemination of this information.

johnny pinwheel · #40 01-15-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I have my own personal axe to grind with the current NYRA regime and I'd love to blame them for any and all flaws in their product, but so many of their current flaws have to do with government involvement. . . I'm sure that's why they haven't offered $0.50 Pk4s. . . every little thing has to get past the wagering board.

i know you are right, every good idea they have gets stonewalled...its kind of pathetic. anyone thats against term limits is nuts. alot of the states problems originate from albany...unfortunatly they have their crooked greedy hands tying up horse racing, constanly. people won't vote the clown out in their own district, so they stay forever and tighten the grip. alot of times i feel they WANT NYRA to fail! face it, the country is run by alot of senile, not so bright people that could not make it in the business world..thats why they are politicians and they stay as long as they can get away with it. my cat could probably make better decisions!