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Old 08-10-2006, 12:16 PM
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The only loyalty I have is to myself, and that is DO NOT BET SHANE LAVIOLETTE...

Shane baby has to sit around all day on Saturday and watch the events until the FINAL Race, race 12, where he finally gets a ride..Could he be the dagger in the 250k guaranteed pick four? I THINK NOT
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:20 PM
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Oh, if we're talking jockey loyalty or trainer loyalty, I definitely have a lot of that. For instance, disclude Travis Dunkleberger at Charles Town at your own peril.
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:23 PM
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Kev is a slightly delusional to play English Channel on the merit of I HEART HIM...He should try and look at it from both perspectives, handicapping and heart. As in, I do it this way...I look at every race from a handicapping perspective, if I don't think the horse I like has a shot, I will either go 5 deep in the the pick three including him, or I will just sit the race out and cheer for him
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:34 PM
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No.
And it hurts. I will probably never get the opportunity to bet on Perfect Drift. Mostly because I dont think he can win unless a very specific race is run.

Some of you guys that go to the track and sit with owners... Do you feel obligated to bet on their horse? I dont unless I think they can win at a price. I will root for them.
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:37 PM
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Kev is a slightly delusional to play English Channel on the merit of I HEART HIM...He should try and look at it from both perspectives, handicapping and heart. As in, I do it this way...I look at every race from a handicapping perspective, if I don't think the horse I like has a shot, I will either go 5 deep in the the pick three including him, or I will just sit the race out and cheer for him
Tom...if I didn't think he had a shot, I would bet a very small amount on him. I think he is the best in this field on Sat and he has done just about everything right to proof that this year. Obviously, there are some great horses in this race, but I still think he is the one to beat, but I am not gonna bet a bundle at short odds.
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:46 PM
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The pick three from races 9-10-11 is going to pay a BUNDLE, even with the 250k guaranteed pick four starting in that race. you single Showing up in the last leg and go 4x5 and you will have your winner, there is also some other pick threes that I am scouting so far that I know are going to pay huge.

Juice up the bankrolls because they will be handing out free money at Arlington. When the pools swell like they do at Arlington, the newbies and rookies have no idea what is going on

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Old 08-10-2006, 01:02 PM
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Ooh I see my boys are on. I think Kev looks at EC like I do Balletto. In my opinion, she has a shot in any race she's entered in... whether its 6f or 12 and whether its again goats or the Handicap Division. Some love is just blind!
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:06 PM
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Ooh I see my boys are on. I think Kev looks at EC like I do Balletto. In my opinion, she has a shot in any race she's entered in... whether its 6f or 12 and whether its again goats or the Handicap Division. Some love is just blind!
Until you get license plates that say 'Balletto' for your car, Kevs got ya beat just a little

As for loyalty, it always kicks me in the ass. I've followed Cherokee's Boy for years, never had the opportunity to bet him, and then he's finally at Mountaineer on WV Derby Day. Do I unload on him? Hell no. Does he win? Hell yes.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:08 PM
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I forgot Preachinatthebar... I LOVE that horse. Loved his Daddy too.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:11 PM
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I forgot Preachinatthebar... I LOVE that horse. Loved his Daddy too.
ditto...but I'm loyal to my money...root for him but don't bet his races. Although my love is probably lower case...
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:12 PM
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Kev is a slightly delusional

...probably could have stopped there
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:12 PM
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Until you get license plates that say 'Balletto' for your car, Kevs got ya beat just a little

As for loyalty, it always kicks me in the ass. I've followed Cherokee's Boy for years, never had the opportunity to bet him, and then he's finally at Mountaineer on WV Derby Day. Do I unload on him? Hell no. Does he win? Hell yes.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:21 PM
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ditto...but I'm loyal to my money...root for him but don't bet his races. Although my love is probably lower case...
I bet him last time out to win... he finished 2nd.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:25 PM
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I always get suckered into Sun King as well, and Shaconage. She's retired though, so I won't make that mistake again.
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Old 08-10-2006, 01:28 PM
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I always get suckered into Sun King as well, and Shaconage. She's retired though, so I won't make that mistake again.
Shaconage - Either ran huge at Churchill or didnt pass anyone. Total coin flip. Think she won the Distaff Turf Mile at a nice price in maybe 04? I think she just missed in that race in 05...
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:48 PM
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...probably could have stopped there
you aint had one in a while...GFY
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Old 08-10-2006, 02:50 PM
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Loyalty at the window is a money loser. Depending on a price, any horse can be a bad bet. It doesn't mean you root any less, you just don't bet a horse everytime b/c you like them.
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Old 08-10-2006, 04:41 PM
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I always do, and that has caused some problems for me.
This made me laugh. Same here.....
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Old 08-10-2006, 05:42 PM
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I kept Come Back Ronnie in my stable mail. I would show up evertime he ran.
keyed him 1st & 3rd in the trifecta. He was the kind that if the race set up for him. He won. if not he would get up for 3rd. Huge late kik

that was on the east coast
they switched him to Cali and he ran 2nd
messed me up totally

took him out of my stable mail

he was getting old

I could never bring myself to bet against Cigar
he was always too short to bet flat. I was always trying to figure out who would run 2nd and third.

This is a long time ago. You usd to be able to pick different tracks and get different pools with different odds.

This guy looked around saw Dare and Go had he best odds at Louisiana Downs
asked the teller for the simulcast at Loser Dwns and we all know what happened.

The whole place was disappointed that Cigar had lost. All but him
when he stuck the ticket in my face, I said "Wrong track - it's not a winner"
he argued with me and I simply said "go get your money then"

I alwas thought it was unAmerican to bet against an American hero like Cigar. Glad he lost his bet.
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Old 08-10-2006, 06:05 PM
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I have no real loyalty when it comes to horses that I'll bet. However there are jockey's that I cannot bet, regardless of who is on them. If I like a horse that say Jose Santos is on, I just skip the race, and trust me it has helped. There are also jockeys that I will use if I think that their style will suit a horse perfectly. Like if P Val gets on a young horse who is getting blinkers, I'm thinking wire to wire, or a patient jock on a closer.
Have trouble include Lukas. I love it when bridge jumpers pile on his horses. Time to bet everyone else to show

There are a few jockeys I feel that way about.
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