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![]() Naproxen is known over the counter as Aleve. Not defending Wolfson but the labs have a really hard time with this drug as it lingers in the system. Despite the propaganda to the contrary the withdrawal times of this drug vary widely between states.
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![]() yea, part of the reason it is popular is that it can last 12+ hrs
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are there other drugs with similar effects without the withdrawal questions? |
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![]() Rats. I missed the cruxifiction.
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![]() I think Chuck effectively stemmed the Ox Bow Incident with his explanation of Naproxen and its use. If you listened to ATR Wednesday night you also would have heard Dr. Robert Lewis, Chairman of the Racing Medication and Testing Consortium, specifically cite Naproxen as a benign medication in the scheme of things.
Here is a link to the germane chapter in the Model Rules on what RMTC is trying to accomplish with them: http://www.rmtcnet.com/resources/Cha...Rules_1-09.PDF As discussed yesterday with Dr. Lewis, the issue or problem here isn't the use of Naproxen... It's that there isn't a standard by which it's use is measured uniformally. New York says to stop giving it 48 hours ahead of a race. California 120 hours. Canada 96 or 120 depending on dosage. Arkansas doesn't even have a guideline for it. The same basic product (Bute) can be used in California on raceday itself. Here is the schedule of Uniform Classification Guidelines in the RMTC Model Rules: Class 1 Opiates, opium derivatives, synthetic opioids, psychoactive drugs, amphetamines and U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) scheduled I and II drugs. Also found in this class are drugs which are potent stimulants of the nervous system. Drugs in this class have no generally accepted medical use in the racehorse and their pharmacological potential for altering the performance of a race is very high. Class 2 Drugs in this category have a high potential for affecting the outcome of a race. Most are not generally accepted as therapeutic agents in the racehorse. Many are products intended to alter consciousness or the psychic state of humans, and have no approved or indicated use in the horse. Some, such as injectable local anesthetics, have legitimate use in equine medicine, but should not be found in a racehorse. Class 3 Drugs in this class may or may not have an accepted therapeutic use in the horse. Many are drugs that affect the cardiovascular, pulmonary and autonomic nervous systems. They all have the potential of affecting the performance of a racehorse. Class 4 This category is comprised primarily of therapeutic medications routinely used in racehorses. These may influence performance, but generally have a more limited ability to do so. Class 5 Drugs in this category are therapeutic medications for which concentration limits have been established as well as certain miscellaneous agents. Included specifically are agents, which have very localized action only, such as anti-ulcer drugs and certain anti-allergenic drugs.
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![]() You make think this incident is " stemmed " but others may not see it that way. Sorry.
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![]() this is his second violation for naproxen isn't it? you'd think if you got burned once on a drug that has questionable withdrawal times that you wouldn't use it again.
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![]() I'm not playing the defender here, but I take Naproxen over other pain meds because I had ulcers - perhaps it's the same situation here and better than the alternative since ulcers in TBs is common.
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that could be...but like i said, if you have a drug with unpredictable withdrawal times, it might be best not to use it. |
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![]() Is Wolfson moving his horses up? - yes, at times extraordinarily
Is Wolfson moving his horses up by illegal means? - maybe Is Wolfson moving his horses up with Naproxen? - not significantly Should Wolfson still face the (appropriate) music for this Class 4 violation? - yes |
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![]() I love how anyone would even try and defend a trainer who gets a freaking drug positive. As a trainer, you are responsible for ensuring that none of your horses who run are running under any drug that is not allowed or any drug that might not be able to withdraw from a system in time for race day. The trainer is responsible for running the operation.
I think it's ridiculous that trainers who get a drug positive get defended and get a slap on the wrist most of the time. There are rules in the sport and they must be followed to protect the integrity of the game. If you get caught using something you aren't supposed to at the wrong time, it's cheating plain and simple. It's not like Martin Wolfson is someone who was mistakenly setup by someone who was vindicative towards him. Martin Wolfson is someone who HAS BEEN CAUGHT CHEATING BEFORE. It's not his first time or a case of him being setup. He has been caught before and he got caught again. In addition to that, Wolfson has received horses from great trainers such as Todd Pletcher and Bill Mott, and not only have they run well, they have run extensively better for Wolfson than for Mott and Pletcher. But like I said earlier, Mott and Pletcher are clueless. Might as well move their stables to Finger Lakes. Wolfson is a cheater who has been exposed, and had the audacity to question Beyer's article. Hopefully Beyer goes after cheaters like this even more aggressively in the future. |
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This is not MW first issue with a violation, nor his second, third,...etc. |
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This is the point of the RMTC Model Rules project. Horsemen widely use things like anti-infammatories, and the guidelines and levels are all over the place for them. In this case, Wolfson took It's a Bird off it 120 hours before the race. In New York, they suggest coming off it only 48 hours before... Other jurisdictions suggest 96-120 hours. Arkansas doesn't even have a published guideline in the system. Here's the RMTC Withdrawl Times engine: http://www.rmtcnet.com/withdrawal_agree.asp You're going to continue to have these kinds of positives with the wide disparities in allowable levels of the various medications. Like Todd Pletcher's Procaine positive and Disqualification with Wait a While in the Breeders' Cup...
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![]() based on what I am reading here how could this possibly warrant a dq?
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These guys are always innocent, always have an excuse......they could be confused with convicts to that extent. Its never their fault, they did not do it, and even if they did its the structural make up of the system. |
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