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Did somebody say something?? ![]() Something else to consider is how speed has been playing at Saratoga so far, it appears to me that speed is not holding up that well(most of the time). If Biancone's babies are all speed demons, that could be another factor for why he's not succeeding this year with 2yos.
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![]() It could be a lot of reasons. It could also be that the ones he left in KY were just behind City Snitch developmentally. I really don't care why. I find the observation interesting and from a handicapping perspective I'll keep an eye out for the PT returners and see if they step forward and then maybe have a playable angle.
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![]() I have noticed after a strong start with his 2yr old ,Assmusen has tailed of a he is bringing some of thers from TP also. I havent looked at all of them but I remember several and Oras post sure does make sense.
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![]() This was something that I noticed during Churchill's summer meet. Horses would train at Turfway on the Polytrack and then not run very well at Churchill.
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![]() Interesting angle. But isn't it possible that maybe there's some sort of virus going thru Biancone's barn? Maybe nothing serious but we see how streaky some trainers get.
It also should be pointed out that trainers like Romans and others were doing quite well at CD and Kee when shipping in from TP off the Polytrack workouts. Also isn't it possible that Biancone's horses may be better when the distances get longer since so many of them are classicly bred? |
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Who cares about the horses being safer on poly though as long as Saratoga stays dirt. Screw the horses. LOL |
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![]() Oracle, First, another thanks for Cotton Blossoms. Your thread on Biancone is very interesting. I will be paying close attention to his 2 yr olds from here on in. Guys like you and Steve clue me in to things I would not have seen myself. All part of a never ending education. Thanks KP
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Here from Keeneland Why Keeneland Believes A Polytrack Racing Surface Is Superior to a Conventional Dirt Track Statistics are showing that Polytrack is a safer racing surface for horses and jockeys. Its soft surface is kinder to horses’ joints and legs. A Polytrack surface remains consistent regardless of weather. Comparatively, with a conventional dirt track, weather--especially rain and cold temperatures that can cause a racetrack to freeze and thaw--can produce dangerous conditions on a racing surface. Since installing Polytrack, Turfway Park has improved safety, increased the number of starters, and greatly decreased the number of cancelled racing dates due to track condition or weather. Fall ’04 thru Winter ‘05 Fall ’05 thru Winter ‘06 Catastrophic Breakdowns 24 3 Number of Starters 8,925 10,208 Cancelled Racing Days 11 1 from 24 breakdowns to 3. 11 cancelled racing days to 1. The sub layers include porous macadam and dense aggregate rock that provide a solid foundation while vertical drainage pipes carry water away from the track. Together, these elements provide a safer, more consistent racing surface compared to a conventional dirt track. |
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![]() If horses run so well from poly to dirt, why is it a pretty widely used angle to not use a horse who has run really well on poly their first start back on dirt? Just wondering.
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The poly has has also cut veterinary bills by 30 percent to 40 percent. Even though vets are losing money they all agree that it is better for the horses. They also love it over at Lingfield. |
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Big difference between facts and BELIEFS. Geesh... do we need to get the dictionary out again? ![]()
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1) casualties went way down 2) racing days went up 3) vet costs are down 4) vets believe it is safer because of the footing horses get 5) top trainers are now moving their horses to train on the poly 6) CA and KY tracks are going to it. http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...1horsecol.html Stop being clueless and brainwashed by these poly haters like NYRA. The horses should come first. |
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![]() Isn't Nostradamus aka boldruler the same guy that claims to only have been following horse racing for a matter of months, yet now we're supposed to believe what he has to say on polytrack vs. dirt and what trainers and others in the business may or may not believe is the better surface?
I'll pass, thanks.
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