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Old 08-08-2006, 07:19 AM
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Training track is about two seconds slower, workout wise right?
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:30 AM
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Training track is about two seconds slower, workout wise right?
Correct Scav.
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Old 08-08-2006, 08:47 AM
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Correct Scav.
I knew it, that f'n Zito worked that Grand Slam colt(3 horse) the other day 49.6 and I looked at it a split second and passed, played a couple horses that are still running.....Still salty about this one

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Old 08-08-2006, 08:59 AM
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Interesting analysis, Oracle.
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:31 AM
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Very Nice Thread.. and some Wonderful ideas & thoughts... I know that in (our Spa Contest) I have played each of his 2 year olds.. and keep looking for one to win.. He is getting bet, so the public likes his young horses. There are soooooo many questions about the poly track, and just another thing to think about when you read the form. Thank you for sharing your thoughts & I'll keep in my mind your thoughts about second time starters.. who may pay a price !
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:39 AM
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Great theory.

Be interesting to look at the winter Turfway meet. Check to see if Firsters and Lay-Off horses won at a FAR less-than-expected rate. That would tend to confirm the hypothesis.

My laboratory is already running at capacity. Who's got time? Anyone house-bound due to recent surgery?
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:41 AM
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Last thought..... how in the world can scientists clone goats and not be able to find a way for horses to run safely on dirt?
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:43 AM
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Great theory.

Be interesting to look at the winter Turfway meet. Check to see if Firsters and Lay-Off horses won at a FAR less-than-expected rate. That would tend to confirm the hypothesis.

My laboratory is already running at capacity. Who's got time? Anyone house-bound due to recent surgery?
Darnit; my brother the statistician is getting married tomorrow... so much for saying to him, "Hey, you want a little side project...?" I think his wife would have issues with it...
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:53 AM
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Great theory.

Be interesting to look at the winter Turfway meet. Check to see if Firsters and Lay-Off horses won at a FAR less-than-expected rate. That would tend to confirm the hypothesis.

My laboratory is already running at capacity. Who's got time? Anyone house-bound due to recent surgery?

someone call my name?
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Old 08-08-2006, 07:29 AM
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Oracle, I think it's a perfectly valid statement you make, and I'd be surprised if even the Polytrack fans argue that a horse should run exactly the same on Polytrack as it does on dirt. I myself look at it as there are now three different surfaces in racing-- dirt, grass and Polytrack. The question for Polytrack's future, I think, will be whether breeders will start breeding horses with a predisposition to run their best on Polytrack, as they do with dirt horses and with grass horses.

In a perfect world, I'm with you in that I wish tracks would spend the time and money to lay in a deep dirt track so horses wouldn't be running on the racing version of pavement. But, though I don't know, I imagine it takes a lot to maintain a deep dirt track, and as the recent ConEd fiasco here in NYC reminds me, humans aren't so good at the maintenance thing until disaster hits.

But either way, it's an excellent angle to play at Saratoga... thanks for sharing it!
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