Draw?

[slotdirt]

Man, what is it with Pletcher and that auxiliary gate?

[tjfla]

Why did no one want #9??? Other than early speed all around

[slotdirt]

Anybody remember the last time Pletcher had an early choice in the Derby draw and went with 15?

[philcski]

Whomever is twittering this thing or updating the moving silks is doing a horrible job. They don't match up.

[richard burch]

they could have pushed pioneer all the way inside and nobody did it?

i'm going with freisen fire.

[slotdirt]

Pioneer had like the fifth choice and took 16.

[tjfla]

hmmm

on kentuckyderby.com he was second to last and got #9

[Rootdog1]

seems strange...he must not do well inside of horses...or they were concerned about a log jam in the first turn.

[tjfla]

Seems like problem with the draw???

[Mike]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Pioneer had like the fifth choice and took 16.

Posts 15 and 16 have done well in the Derby, a trainer chose one of those posts early last year, also

[Clip-Clop]

5 of the last 15 winners from 15 or 16.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by tjfla

hmmm

on kentuckyderby.com he was second to last and got #9

I saw that too, im confused too

[tjfla]

Ya i am trying to find what is right

But have not seen anything official

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by tjfla

Ya i am trying to find what is right

But have not seen anything official

also im trying to figure out if he picked 9 second to last, why were the other guys picking post 1 and 20 over the 9 spot. I think the website was messed up.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Mike

Posts 15 and 16 have done well in the Derby, a trainer chose one of those posts early last year, also

The auxilary gate makes sense from the standpoint a horse will have half the chance of being bumped at the break, also I think it reduces the wait time in the gate due to the simultaneous load. Atleast I remember reading that from Pletcher's reasoning on selecting 15 for Bandini.

[ezgoerbaby]

Kentucky Derby.com screwed it up.

1. WSB
2.Musket Man
3. Mr. Hot Stuff
4. Advice
5. Hold Me Back
6. Friesan Fire
7. Papa Clem
8. Mine that Bird
9. Join in the Dance
10. Regal Ransom
11. Chocolate Candy
12. Gen. Quarters
13. IWR
14. Atomic Rain
15. Dunkirk
16. POTN
17. Summer Bird
18. Nowhere to Hide
19. Desert Party
20. Flying Private

[Clip-Clop]

1. West Side Bernie, 30-to-1

2. Musket Man, 20-to-1

3. Mr. Hot Stuff, 30-to-1

4. Advice, 30-to-1

5. Hold Me Back, 15-to-1

6. Friesan Fire, 5-to-1

7. Papa Clem, 20-to-1

8. Mine That Bird, 50-to-1

9. Join in the Dance, 50-to-1

10. Regal Ransom, 30-to-1

11. Chocolate Candy, 20-to-1

12. General Quarters, 20-to-1

13. I Want Revenge, 3-to-1

14. Atomic Rain, 50-to-1

15. Dunkirk, 4-to-1

16. Pioneerof the Nile, 4-to-1

17. Summer Bird, 50-to-1

18. Nowhere to Hide, 50-to-1

19. Desert Party, 15-to-1

20. Flying Private, 50-to-1

[tjfla]

Little high on some of them but guess gotta makeup for all the clunkers running

Thinking Desert Party will move up some and Friesan Fire and Dunkirk down some

[Travis Stone]

Do the inside horses start a few yards behind the rest? I never understood the inside post avoidance. I'd rather save the ground than lose it. You need to get lucky regardless, I'd take my chances.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Do the inside horses start a few yards behind the rest? I never understood the inside post avoidance. I'd rather save the ground than lose it. You need to get lucky regardless, I'd take my chances.

I love that Musket Man got the 2 hole. In prior races he had no problem sitting the rail until late. Straight shot the the turn he'll be in good position.